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NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:40 am
by orab
-The schools you are considering
NYU: with 65K scholarship
Georgetown:128K scholarship


WL: UVA, Columbia, Cornell

-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships.
Georgetown: 110K
NYU: 165k
Above Cost is taking into account a little help from family and saving.

-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
I will be paying with Loan

-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
I'm from Florida.

-Your general career goals
I would like to work in the east coast. Washington, New York or Florida are good to me.

-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
168/3.70

-How many times you have taken the LSAT
2

I'm still trying to negotiate an increase in scholarship from both schools. Will it be wise to double deposit to gain some more time?

I would really appreciate any opinions or thoughts on either school. Thanks!!

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:43 am
by usn26
Yeah, I'd double deposit unless it's clearly and enforceably forbidden. If it results in any more scholarship money it'll certainly be worth it.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:51 am
by ILoveYou
Definitely worth double depositing. These are some nice options, hopefully you can get a scholarship boost from NYU out of it. Good luck!


Btw, I voted NYU for 55k more than GULC, but if GULC ups your offer and NYU doesn't, that could change things.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:53 am
by k5220
Don't double deposit. Accepting the scholarship requires you to submit a statement of intent to register certifying that you've withdrawn from all other schools you've been accepted to.

Lying about that is a terrible idea. As far as "enforceability," they can take away your scholarship, rescind your offer of admission, or report you to the ABA. It's not worth it to mess around.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:07 pm
by usn26
k5220 wrote:Don't double deposit. Accepting the scholarship requires you to submit a statement of intent to register certifying that you've withdrawn from all other schools you've been accepted to.

Lying about that is a terrible idea. As far as "enforceability," they can take away your scholarship, rescind your offer of admission, or report you to the ABA. It's not worth it to mess around.
Is that on the NYU side? I don't think the GULC scholarships require withdrawal.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:28 pm
by orab
I checked the Georgetown intent to enroll form and it does not require to withdraw from all other schools.

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:30 pm
by Gray
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Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:38 pm
by k5220
NYU doesn't have that though. Accepting the scholarship requires committing to attend.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:12 pm
by orab
Wow, I though the poll response was going to be closer. NYU is taking a big lead.
Regarding the double deposit, this is what I found in the LSAC website.

After April 1, except under binding early decision plans, every
applicant should be free to accept a new offer from a law
school even though a scholarship has been accepted,
a deposit has been paid, or a commitment has been made to
another school. To provide applicants with an uncoerced
choice among various law schools, no excessive
nonrefundable deposit should be required solely to maintain
a place in the class. Beginning on May 15 of each year, law
schools that participate in the Commitment Overlap Service
will be provided with information concerning all enrollment
commitments to any law school made by those applicants
who have indicated an intention to enroll in that school’s
entering class. A law school should clearly communicate its
policies on multiple enrollment commitments upon admission.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:20 pm
by Clemenceau
Your coa seem a bit off to me, but I might just be bad at math.

Do you have any specific career goals? Simply working on the east coast is not a career goal, at least I would hope. If you had some specific fields in mind, that could certainly influence which school is the better choice for you.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:56 pm
by orab
Clemenceau wrote:Your coa seem a bit off to me, but I might just be bad at math.

Do you have any specific career goals? Simply working on the east coast is not a career goal, at least I would hope. If you had some specific fields in mind, that could certainly influence which school is the better choice for you.

Thanks for your answer, Regarding the COA, I'm considering also around 8K extra a year of income. (4K external scholarship that I have, 3K parent contribution, 1K saving). I enter all the information in one of the calculator ,and for Georgetown after interest,loan origination etc. The total COA was around 110K.

Regarding my career goal, Ultimately, I would like to end up with a PI career, but some attorneys that I have met, some of them from Georgetown, advised me that I should try to go Big Law first and then move to PI. Some others said that is better to get PI experience and then go into Big law. So I'm still weighting my options.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:59 pm
by kaiser
GULC can't compete with NYU when it comes to PI opportunities. So if thats the route you want to go, its probably worth the cost differential. And the door to biglaw would be wide open out of NYU should you decide to go that route instead.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:39 pm
by TLSModBot
If the final cost differential is only 55k then it's NYU by a long mile. There is literally nothing GULC does that NYU can't do twice as well. And this is coming from a current GULC student.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:02 pm
by checkers
NYU places better in both Biglaw and PI, but you have to ask yourself how much is that worth to you.
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Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:35 pm
by jbagelboy
This is a tough spread. I'm tempted to still call it for NYU just because I'll take that heavily added certainty of a good outcome for $65K and you'll incur debt either way.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:43 pm
by blsingindisguise
A 20 to 25 percentage point higher chance of getting biglaw or similar is absolutely worth an extra 65k plus interest, unless you're sure you don't want that kind of job, in which case take the cheaper school.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:57 pm
by orab
Update...i was denied a scholarship increase at NYU. I have not heard back from Georgetown yet. I'm leaning toward NYU. I will make my deposit today and probably will withdraw from Georgetown. Any last minute advice?

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:14 pm
by UpandDown97
orab wrote:Update...i was denied a scholarship increase at NYU. I have not heard back from Georgetown yet. I'm leaning toward NYU. I will make my deposit today and probably will withdraw from Georgetown. Any last minute advice?
Count your blessings. Good cycle. NYU is the right choice. It's worth the 55k.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:26 pm
by orab
Thanks.

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:26 pm
by strugglebus
Agree NYU is worth it here. Congrats!

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 8:18 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
NYU worth it imo

Re: NYU vs. Georgetown

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:12 am
by WeeBey
NYU is worth 55 over GULC. Good luck.