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Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:29 am
by jenesaislaw
Up on ABA: http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org/
Up on LST: http://www.LSTScoreReports.com

Notes
* ABA data currently missing Belmont and Lincoln Memorial -- the provisionally approved schools. ABA aware and updating soon. When ABA updates, LST will update. We're waiting on them instead of manually entering the data for the school
* We're going to split Widener into two profiles now that they're officially split up -- this will not be taken care of for a few days though
* These data are @10 months instead of @9 months after graduation (March 15 vs Feb 15). The impact is unknown now.
* Still working through some things on LST, but if you run into any issues, post about them here. I'm probably aware, but may not be, so better safe than sorry.

Analysis
* Full analysis coming in the next few hours, but here are some quick takes
* Total employment in LT, FT bar-required jobs is down/flat, but the rates improved because there are fewer graduates
* Location matters just as much as ever. Except for a few schools, go to one that is near where you want to work.
* Biglaw becoming more concentrated -- probably explained by NY market, but tough to tell from the current dataset. Working on another potential dataset.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:24 pm
by starry eyed
like a boss

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:31 pm
by Calbears123
My schools employment score went from 71 to 78%...that's good right haha?

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:09 pm
by jenesaislaw
Just added Belmont and Lincoln. Some issues with the cost page for Lincoln, but will fix that soonish. These schools (and Irvine) have trends page issues too.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:49 am
by Redamon1
What a huge service to everyone, thank you. Motion to sticky.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:03 am
by RCSOB657
Thanks.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:46 am
by Flokkness
Redamon1 wrote:What a huge service to everyone, thank you. Motion to sticky.
+1

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:41 pm
by isuperserial
Thankyouthankyouthankyou. LST is a godsend.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:45 pm
by strugglebus
Wonderful, thanks! Perpetually shocked at the number of applicants I know/have met at ASWs who don't know about this...

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:50 pm
by sd5289
Yeesh, my school went from 54.xx% to 56.xx% (and most of my friends who graduated last year, with one exception, have jobs).

Guess I should consider myself lucky with a FTLT job prior to graduation.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:46 am
by adil91
Why do you guys consider school funded jobs to be Full Time Long term legal jobs?

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 2:01 pm
by Pragmatic Gun
not all school funded ones are the same. A fellowship at Yale is different than sitting in the basement at Indiana Tech editig emails

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 2:03 pm
by jenesaislaw
Yep. And we're pushing schools to distinguish among these jobs in a standardized fashion. Hope to have something to announce in the next two weeks.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 12:47 am
by adil91
Pragmatic Gun wrote:not all school funded ones are the same. A fellowship at Yale is different than sitting in the basement at Indiana Tech editig emails
Yeah but neither are long term, both have definite end dates

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:41 am
by The Dark Shepard
adil91 wrote:
Pragmatic Gun wrote:not all school funded ones are the same. A fellowship at Yale is different than sitting in the basement at Indiana Tech editig emails
Yeah but neither are long term, both have definite end dates
They are long-term as classified by ABA.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:03 am
by Pragmatic Gun
The Dark Shepard wrote:
adil91 wrote:
Pragmatic Gun wrote:not all school funded ones are the same. A fellowship at Yale is different than sitting in the basement at Indiana Tech editig emails
Yeah but neither are long term, both have definite end dates
They are long-term as classified by ABA.
They usually lead to long term jobs doh

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:25 am
by jenesaislaw
The Dark Shepard wrote:
adil91 wrote:
Pragmatic Gun wrote:not all school funded ones are the same. A fellowship at Yale is different than sitting in the basement at Indiana Tech editig emails
Yeah but neither are long term, both have definite end dates
They are long-term as classified by ABA.
This is key.

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:00 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
Pragmatic Gun wrote:
The Dark Shepard wrote:
adil91 wrote:
Pragmatic Gun wrote:not all school funded ones are the same. A fellowship at Yale is different than sitting in the basement at Indiana Tech editig emails
Yeah but neither are long term, both have definite end dates
They are long-term as classified by ABA.
They usually lead to long term jobs doh
citation needed

Re: Class of 2014 Employment Stats (Updated LST Score Reports)

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:59 pm
by jenesaislaw
I haven't followed through with my national analysis, but I will this week. This promise will give me some accountability :lol: