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No. Best other offer would be Cornell for like 80k debt but then I'd probably end up in NYCJim Jones wrote:do you have a full ride anywhere?
Traynor Brah wrote:meh. I would probably do harvard for 190 irrespective of my goals.
Yeah more like 50k...you'll make a lot less than secretaries at biglaw firms. Maybe less than Starbucks baristas.4for44 wrote:LIPP really is a great program. If you are PI focused, you'll likely pay the same amount of your salary towards loans on LIPP from HLS as you would with a LOT less loans from another place. Use the LIPP calculator (online tool) to get an estimate. If you really are PI focused, the money shouldn't be as big of a factor.
Also making 60-70 straight out seems ambitious for PI, unless your are talking Government.
I can see some skepticism about PSLF programs, but I would bet a lot of money at horrible odds that Harvard will not change LIPP, at least for those who are already enrolled. I'm not even sure they could legally get away with that.BiglawAssociate wrote:Yeah more like 50k...you'll make a lot less than secretaries at biglaw firms. Maybe less than Starbucks baristas.4for44 wrote:LIPP really is a great program. If you are PI focused, you'll likely pay the same amount of your salary towards loans on LIPP from HLS as you would with a LOT less loans from another place. Use the LIPP calculator (online tool) to get an estimate. If you really are PI focused, the money shouldn't be as big of a factor.
Also making 60-70 straight out seems ambitious for PI, unless your are talking Government.
Is LIPP here to stay? I wouldn't trust it. Also if you want to do PI 200k debt is insane imo. EATING RAMEN FOR LIFE.
but DAT GRANDADDY clauseBiglawAssociate wrote:Yeah more like 50k...you'll make a lot less than secretaries at biglaw firms. Maybe less than Starbucks baristas.4for44 wrote:LIPP really is a great program. If you are PI focused, you'll likely pay the same amount of your salary towards loans on LIPP from HLS as you would with a LOT less loans from another place. Use the LIPP calculator (online tool) to get an estimate. If you really are PI focused, the money shouldn't be as big of a factor.
Also making 60-70 straight out seems ambitious for PI, unless your are talking Government.
Is LIPP here to stay? I wouldn't trust it. Also if you want to do PI 200k debt is insane imo. EATING RAMEN FOR LIFE.
LOL. Is there some kind of legal contract that both parties sign? Read the small font - "program may change, etc."Auxilio wrote:I can see some skepticism about PSLF programs, but I would bet a lot of money at horrible odds that Harvard will not change LIPP, at least for those who are already enrolled. I'm not even sure they could legally get away with that.BiglawAssociate wrote:Yeah more like 50k...you'll make a lot less than secretaries at biglaw firms. Maybe less than Starbucks baristas.4for44 wrote:LIPP really is a great program. If you are PI focused, you'll likely pay the same amount of your salary towards loans on LIPP from HLS as you would with a LOT less loans from another place. Use the LIPP calculator (online tool) to get an estimate. If you really are PI focused, the money shouldn't be as big of a factor.
Also making 60-70 straight out seems ambitious for PI, unless your are talking Government.
Is LIPP here to stay? I wouldn't trust it. Also if you want to do PI 200k debt is insane imo. EATING RAMEN FOR LIFE.
BiglawAssociate wrote: LOL. Is there some kind of legal contract that both parties sign? Read the small font - "program may change, etc."
Still too risky for me, in light of how the government is intent on fucking over PSLF
This. HAHVAHD for a discount.starry eyed wrote:Traynor Brah wrote:meh. I would probably do harvard for 190 irrespective of my goals.
It could, but it would be bad press, and I don't see Harvard worrying about the financial impact to such an extent they wouldn't grandfather people in.BiglawAssociate wrote:LOL. Is there some kind of legal contract that both parties sign? Read the small font - "program may change, etc."Auxilio wrote:I can see some skepticism about PSLF programs, but I would bet a lot of money at horrible odds that Harvard will not change LIPP, at least for those who are already enrolled. I'm not even sure they could legally get away with that.BiglawAssociate wrote:Yeah more like 50k...you'll make a lot less than secretaries at biglaw firms. Maybe less than Starbucks baristas.4for44 wrote:LIPP really is a great program. If you are PI focused, you'll likely pay the same amount of your salary towards loans on LIPP from HLS as you would with a LOT less loans from another place. Use the LIPP calculator (online tool) to get an estimate. If you really are PI focused, the money shouldn't be as big of a factor.
Also making 60-70 straight out seems ambitious for PI, unless your are talking Government.
Is LIPP here to stay? I wouldn't trust it. Also if you want to do PI 200k debt is insane imo. EATING RAMEN FOR LIFE.
Still too risky for me, in light of how the government is intent on fucking over PSLF
I know it when I see it.blsingindisguise wrote:I do wonder what pricetag makes even H too expensive.
but we can also apply this speculation more broadly. Ideally, the best outcome is to go to the cheapest school possible and get biglaw. That can be accomplished by finishing at the top of your TTT class. But instead, if you chose to go to t14 for sticker and got biglaw, you will still wonder what if you had went to the TTT, saved money, and gotten biglaw anyway.BigZuck wrote:I know a prosecutor in TX who went to Harvard, she's on their LRAP and PSLF. She said having all that debt kinda screwed her when applying for a mortgage but I'm not sure how all that works. I get why people go to Harvard when they have that option (I mean, it's Harvard) but when I think of her situation I kind of wonder if she would have been better off going to, like, UT on a full ride. I wonder if she would be in the same place only with 150K less debt. But maybe the lesser debt wouldn't matter and maybe I'm underselling the long term benefits of a Harvard JD.
Sounds about right. That's a little more than I'll be graduating with. I know OP said PI, but with big law that's doable in 4-5 years.jbagelboy wrote:I think any T6 is fine at $190k in the abstract (and maybe a few more schools too). it's all about what other options are out there. If there's another top school for a lot cheaper, that's a better option. Otherwise, yea I'm comfortable okaying $190k debt at HLS.
What type of PI? If you want to work at a DAs or PDs, it might make more sense to go to school where you want to work for free (DC's a different animal than "the south").Lawperson2018 wrote:Is it stupid to go to Harvard for ~190k (according to lawschool22's COA sheet) of debt at graduation if I want PI in either DC or the south and not BigLaw? Seems like Havard's LIPP program will make it reasonable to repay everything in 10 years if I come out of school making 60-70k per year. Is it a reasonable assumption that the debt would be manageable in this scenario?