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177 Cornell vs.75 NYU vs.40 CLS vs.15 Harvard vs.90/120 Penn
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:00 pm
by ALawStudent
Which do you think I should take? I prefer to stay in NYC, but that Cornell money is a pretty sizable amount to turn down. I tried renegotiating with NYU, but that failed. I have yet to try using the NYU offer with Columbia, but I'm not sure it will do anything, we'll see.
Ithaca is really annoying, but is it worth it?
Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:03 pm
by quiver
In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:
-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT
Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:09 pm
by 03152016
impressed you managed to get nyu to offer 400 times more than cornell
Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:13 pm
by CaptainJapan
Brut wrote:impressed you managed to get nyu to offer 400 times more than cornell
this is one of those times your tar perfectly punctuates your post
Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:14 pm
by kingpin101
ALawStudent wrote:Which do you think I should take? I prefer to stay in NYC, but that Cornell money is a pretty sizable amount to turn down. I tried renegotiating with NYU, but that failed. I have yet to try using the NYU offer with Columbia, but I'm not sure it will do anything, we'll see.
Ithaca is really annoying, but is it worth it?
Have you even lived in Ithaca?
Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:20 pm
by ALawStudent
quiver wrote:In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:
-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT
-Columbia, Harvard, Cornell, and NYU
-COA, Probably 200K Columbia, 230K Harvard, 63K Cornell, 165K at NYU. I expect my parent will cover living, so debt would be that minus 60K.
-From NYC, want to work in NYC
-Big law, then unknown.
-173/4.1
-Once
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:23 pm
by arklaw13
Cornell for nearly free when you want NYC biglaw is about as open and shut as it could be.
Re: $177 at Cornell vs. $75K at NYU vs. $40K at Columbia
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:25 pm
by 03152016
ALawStudent wrote:quiver wrote:In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:
-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT
-Columbia, Harvard, Cornell, and NYU
-COA, Probably 200K Columbia, 230K Harvard, 63K Cornell, 165K at NYU. I expect my parent will cover living, so debt would be that minus 60K.
-From NYC, want to work in NYC
-Big law, then unknown.
-173/4.1
-Once
oh dear. no, those numbers will be higher. at least for cls, hls, and nyu
use this:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=225195
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:46 pm
by quiver
arklaw13 wrote:Cornell for nearly free when you want NYC biglaw is about as open and shut as it could be.
100% this.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:56 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
if your parents are covering COL youll likely graduate cornell with money in the bank
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:04 pm
by 03152016
lol anyone voting hls sticker vs full ride cornell for nyc biglaw should explain themselves itt
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:05 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
Brut wrote:lol anyone voting hls sticker vs full ride cornell for nyc biglaw should explain themselves itt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEGy_asxL2U
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:59 pm
by jingosaur
Cornell is a damn good school. Damn good.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:36 am
by ALawStudent
Well I also have an established social group in NYC. I know no one at Cornell.
And I'm worried about prestige a little. But it's hard to say no to that money if I'm not at least getting 100K from NYU or Columbia.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:14 am
by kingpin101
ALawStudent wrote:Well I also have an established social group in NYC.
which you can contact after three years at Ithaca.
ALawStudent wrote:
And I'm worried about prestige a little.
You shouldn't.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:25 am
by Rigo
100% Cornell.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:11 am
by jbagelboy
Email Charles DeRubeis just the following: is that the best you can do?
Seriously, you're getting scammed by NYU and CLS with those numbers. And H at sticker is out of the question. You should have a half ride at minimum, probably $100k+. It's probably clear to fin aid that you come from money, but driven by merit alone you should be seeing a lot more from a greater selection of schools.
While Cornell is a great school, I do understand some of the hesitation since with a 173/4.1 you're also eligible for a Levy, Mordecai, Vanderbilt, Butler.
As everyone's suggested, clearly it would be error to give up the full ride for chump change just to stay in the city. But the reality is you should have more attractive offers -- or something like full tuition at Penn -- so I'd keep pushing.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:19 am
by FloridaCoastalorbust
cornell easily. though i'd go to harvard cuz i'm an idiot.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:48 am
by Pragmatic Gun
You will make friends at whatever law school you go to if you're worried about having social circle. Furthermore, I don't think it is a betrayal if you leave your social circle for Ithaca.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:54 am
by elterrible78
Cornell, and this is one of the easiest poll questions I have ever seen on this site. Although for a lot of people social life is important during law school, I doubt it should be many people's top priority and, as others have said, you'll make plenty of friends at Cornell. In the long run, you'll just end up with a larger group of friends and contacts (assuming your NYC people don't bail on you for going to Ithaca, and if they do, they weren't your friends). If you want to do big law in NYC, you'd be insane to pay so much more for CLS or NYU, and I don't think Harvard is even in the running here.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:04 am
by arewevoting
Cornell, no question.
I understand your hesitations about Ithaca, but Collegetown is actually kind of cool, cool enough for you to find some friends and fun when you need to. Plus the geography or whatever you want to call it really is pretty amazing. It's obviously not NYC, but it appears you'll be living there the rest of your life anyway (and likely both summers in law school). Coming from NYC the weather should be a non-factor, or at least negligible.
Congrats on the great offer!
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:08 pm
by ALawStudent
UPDATE: Penn offered me a potential 90,000 merit after offering 30,000 in need based, not sure if the merit will destroy need based, but what do you think of this vs. Cornell?
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:10 pm
by kingpin101
If it's 90k total than no, Cornell at full is better. If it's 120k, then it could be defensible but still not rational.
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:23 pm
by ALawStudent
kingpin101 wrote:If it's 90k total than no, Cornell at full is better. If it's 120k, then it could be defensible but still not rational.
Do you know if Penn need-based aid is separate from merit aid?
Re: 177 at Cornell vs. 75 at NYU vs. 40 at CLS vs.10-20? Harvard
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:27 pm
by Rigo
ALawStudent wrote:kingpin101 wrote:If it's 90k total than no, Cornell at full is better. If it's 120k, then it could be defensible but still not rational.
Do you know if Penn need-based aid is separate from merit aid?
Yes.