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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:54 pm
by kjm1992
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Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:18 pm
by wolfie_m.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:39 pm
by kjm1992
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Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:46 pm
by forza
How many times have you taken the LSAT? Cop the bibles, put in 3 months of PTs, retake and get a 170+, and hit the T14.

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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:55 pm
by kjm1992
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Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:05 am
by downbeat14
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Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:48 am
by wolfie_m.
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Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:45 am
by romothesavior
kjm1992 wrote:I've taken it twice. I was scoring between 168-170 on my practice tests and then got a 163 on my first LSAT and a 164 on the second.
Sounds like you're capable and smart enough to get a couple more points. Consider retaking in June. If you do better, you can try to negotiate for more money or decide if you want to sit out a year and shoot for a better school.

I know retaking the LSAT sucks, but you're looking at potentially tens of thousands of dollars in more money just for taking a test. That's absolutely worth it.

Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:27 am
by MarkfromWI
kjm1992 wrote: Right now, I'm leaning toward criminal law and working as a defense attorney at a law firm, but I'm open to changing my mind in law school.
What kind of defense attorney? There's a huge difference between being the guy/gal with your face on bus benches pleading out DUIs and being a federal public defender or white collar defense at biglaw firm.

http://abovethelaw.com/2013/12/4-ways-t ... ense-work/
This article has tips on how to break into white collar defense. None of the routes he mentions are easy, and the first three are still difficult but more realistic coming out of a T-14. If that's the type of criminal defense you were thinking of, retaking and sitting out the cycle is definitely the way to go.

If you're fine doing "regular" criminal defense work at a smaller firm, retaking is still credited because for the bump in scholly money, but you could get by enrolling at whichever school you liked most.

Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:34 am
by Nomo
If you're practice tests are in the 168-170 range, and you're highest score is 164 you MUST retake. You've got a very real shot of completely changing your opportunities and debt load.

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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:13 pm
by kjm1992
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Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:22 pm
by Dr. Nefario
BU may offer less than you expect 164 3.6 and only 15k/yr first offer.

Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:35 pm
by romothesavior
You can still get more money out of them in the summer. If you pull down a 168-170, you can tell Vanderbilt or whoever that you need more money or you'll be putting off a year.

If they don't play ball, be willing to take a year off and have literally life changing employment and debt outcomes. As someone who went straight through, I sincerely regret not taking a year to work, travel, etc. I wish I could have a do over and retake one more time and take time off.

Re: Vanderbilt vs GW vs BU vs WM

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:31 pm
by forza
Don't cancel your backpacking trip. Take the fall LSAT and if you improve your score, reapply next year.

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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:38 pm
by kjm1992
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