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Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:36 am
by rtbrah
hey guys it looks like these three schools are gonna be my most likely options (still waiting on ucla/usc), and i need your help picking and understanding scholarship stipulations. My parents are gonna cover my cost of attendance and these 3 seem to have the similar COA numbers.
Pepperdine is gonna be a full ride and i have ties to los angeles, which is where i would hope to work. Im from orange county which brings UCI in to play. They've offered me 90k over 3 years, and im not sure if they're open to negotiation. I dont know their expected ranking so do you guys think i could leverage my other scholarships for more money? Finally I've been accepted to U of Arizona and ASU both with full rides, but U of A's scholarship stip says "good academic standing, as calculated at the end of each year of study". Then it says "all merit based scholarships were retained if the recipient remained in the top 90%"... so does this mean i just have to avoid being in the bottom 10 percent of the class in order to keep my scholarship? I'm comfortable with the idea of working and living in arizona because of how saturated the socal market is.
P.S i know about LST and the aba jobs data
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of A (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:52 am
by ticklemesilly
rtbrah wrote:hey guys it looks like these three schools are gonna be my most likely options (still waiting on ucla/usc), and i need your help picking and understanding scholarship stipulations. My parents are gonna cover my cost of attendance and these 3 seem to have the similar COA numbers.
Pepperdine is gonna be a full ride and i have ties to los angeles, which is where i would hope to work. Im from orange county which brings UCI in to play. They've offered me 90k over 3 years, and im not sure if they're open to negotiation. I dont know their expected ranking so do you guys think i could leverage my other scholarships for more money? Finally I've been accepted to U of A and ASU both with full rides, but U of A's scholarship stip says "good academic standing, as calculated at the end of each year of study". Then it says "all merit based scholarships were retained if the recipient remained in the top 90%"... so does this mean i just have to avoid being in the bottom 10 percent of the class in order to keep my scholarship? I'm comfortable with the idea of working and living in arizona because of how saturated the socal market is.
P.S i know about LST and the aba jobs data
I would wait on USC, then negotiate a large scholarship using University of Alabama's offer. They are ranked similarly so if you could squeeze a full ride out of USC that would be great (provided you want to stay in SoCal.)
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:54 am
by gamerish
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Re: Pepperdine (full) U of A (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:09 am
by rtbrah
ticklemesilly wrote:rtbrah wrote:hey guys it looks like these three schools are gonna be my most likely options (still waiting on ucla/usc), and i need your help picking and understanding scholarship stipulations. My parents are gonna cover my cost of attendance and these 3 seem to have the similar COA numbers.
Pepperdine is gonna be a full ride and i have ties to los angeles, which is where i would hope to work. Im from orange county which brings UCI in to play. They've offered me 90k over 3 years, and im not sure if they're open to negotiation. I dont know their expected ranking so do you guys think i could leverage my other scholarships for more money? Finally I've been accepted to U of A and ASU both with full rides, but U of A's scholarship stip says "good academic standing, as calculated at the end of each year of study". Then it says "all merit based scholarships were retained if the recipient remained in the top 90%"... so does this mean i just have to avoid being in the bottom 10 percent of the class in order to keep my scholarship? I'm comfortable with the idea of working and living in arizona because of how saturated the socal market is.
P.S i know about LST and the aba jobs data
I would wait on USC, then negotiate a large scholarship using University of Alabama's offer. They are ranked similarly so if you could squeeze a full ride out of USC that would be great (provided you want to stay in SoCal.)
ahh u of A meant university of Arizona not alabama haha my bad
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of A (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:10 am
by rtbrah
gamerish wrote:GPA, LSAT, URM status, career prospects, parent's budget for COA
3.8 164 non urm, parents will cover as much as needed
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:46 am
by gamerish
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Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:51 am
by DaRascal
Arizona for sure out of these options!
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:57 am
by sesto elemento
gamerish wrote:Then you should study and retake for T14, especially with that GPA.
Yeah you definitely need to retake with gpa.
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:32 am
by rtbrah
sesto elemento wrote:gamerish wrote:Then you should study and retake for T14, especially with that GPA.
Yeah you definitely need to retake with gpa.
the thing is, i feel burnt out from studying for the lsat. i've taken it like 3 times and this is my second time applying, i have this feeling of wanting to move forward with life
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:33 am
by rtbrah
DaRascal wrote:Arizona for sure out of these options!
i'm leaning towards arizona as of right now hahah i enjoy ur threads btw
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:21 am
by Tiago Splitter
I don't see the point in going to Arizona. There are way too many grads trying for that market, and you'll inevitably want to come back to CA and have a much tougher time doing so from either AZ school. I'd look to graduate as close to debt free as possible from either of Pepperdine or UCI.
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:03 pm
by Rigo
DaRascal wrote:Arizona for sure out of these options!
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:32 pm
by Ron Don Volante
retake
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:34 pm
by Hand
Ron Don Volante wrote:retake
If your parents are willing to foot the bill no matter what, at least get yourself in at UCLA or USC; that'll probably require 2-3 more points on the LSAT (but you might get lucky, who knows)
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:38 pm
by Rigo
Negotiate with Irvine.
That actually seems like the best option of the three since your parents are paying. Living at home (is that an option?) would save you a lot of money that couldn't be saved at the other two.
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:40 pm
by Ron Don Volante
if ur parents are paying you'd be an absolute moron to not retake for three more points and go to USC
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:49 pm
by Big Red
You've taken it like 3 times? So you're out of retakes? That's going to change what people tell you here
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:08 pm
by gamerish
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Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:09 pm
by Ron Don Volante
Big Red wrote:You've taken it like 3 times? So you're out of retakes? That's going to change what people tell you here
No it's not. Work and save money until you can retake again, is TCR.
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:46 pm
by Big Red
Ron Don Volante wrote:Big Red wrote:You've taken it like 3 times? So you're out of retakes? That's going to change what people tell you here
No it's not. Work and save money until you can retake again, is TCR.
I stand corrected
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:52 pm
by chuckbass
rtbrah wrote:sesto elemento wrote:gamerish wrote:Then you should study and retake for T14, especially with that GPA.
Yeah you definitely need to retake with gpa.
the thing is, i feel burnt out from studying for the lsat. i've taken it like 3 times and this is my second time applying, i have this feeling of wanting to move forward with life
What makes you think law school exams won't burn you out too then?
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:14 pm
by CanadianWolf
How did you prepare for each of the three LSAT sittings ? Did you achieve much improvement ?
Somewhat depends upon whether you prefer to live in Arizona or in California, but the best course of action is to work for a year while prepping for a fourth LSAT sitting if you feel that you can improve your top score of 164. Nevertheless, while improving your score should result in a couple of T-14 options, the issue might then become whether to take a full-tuition scholarship to a non-T-14 or to incur substantial debt at a lower T-14.
P.S. Law school location is important for several reasons. My remark above considered internships & externships during the school year which often lead to job offers.
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:33 pm
by rtbrah
Dirigo wrote:Negotiate with Irvine.
That actually seems like the best option of the three since your parents are paying. Living at home (is that an option?) would save you a lot of money that couldn't be saved at the other two.
when would be a good time to start negotiating? irvine doesnt have a ranking so would pepperdine and U of Arizona's offers be good enough to ask for more money?
Re: Pepperdine (full) U of Arizona (full) or UCI (90k)
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:39 pm
by rtbrah
gamerish wrote:Big Red wrote:You've taken it like 3 times? So you're out of retakes? That's going to change what people tell you here
I'd tell him to get a job or something until another take opens up.
With 4 more points on his LSAT he's looking at:
Doing something else while studying for a year is worth the huge leap in employment prospects.
I think i've maxed out my lsat potential. I've looked at materials from powerscore including the bibles, took a kaplan class last cycle and a blueprint one before this cycle's sept 2014 test. im not sure theres much i can do, also wouldnt raising my score by like 2-3 points still leave me with a huge amount of debt at most t-14 schools? It seems like pepperdine and U of Arizona hold less risk in case i dont end up with a well paying legal job, whereas graduating from a t-14 school might leave me with soul crushing debt.
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:44 pm
by gamerish
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