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Think twice before accepting harvard. A coworker asked a HLS grad, why not Yale and the person just stammered and looked visibly ashamed.

This thread has promise.

GreenTee wrote:This thread has promise.

At first I was a little surprised my co-worker asked. But her reasoning was this: The difference between Yale students and Harvard students isn't GPA or LSAT it is the intangibles.

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metroidbum wrote:Feel like that could apply to pretty much anyone not at Yale; Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Northwestern.

I mean, it's like asking someone who goes to, say, NU "why not Columbia" when the obvious answer is "numbers".

But it's not the same. Since like I said the difference between HLS and YLS is not numbers.

metroidbum wrote:Feel like that could apply to pretty much anyone not at Yale; Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Northwestern.

I mean, it's like asking someone who goes to, say, NU "why not Columbia" when the obvious answer is "numbers".

Less obvious answer: "Debt aversion."

If you go to Columbia, the answer to "why not Yale?" could be that I had too much fun freshman year of college (I'm a sociable bro!), so my overall GPA was only 3.7. Or it could be that they offered you a Hamilton.

If you're at Harvard, you don't have that excuse. You had the numbers, and the cost is the same. So we're left with the fact that your potential for success was deemed to be subpar, and/or your personality was... off.

"I really tried to get into eggplant, but it turns out I'm more a zucchini kind of person"

stellina wrote:If you go to Columbia, the answer to "why not Yale?" could be that I had too much fun freshman year of college (I'm a sociable bro!), so my overall GPA was only 3.7. Or it could be that they offered you a Hamilton.

If you're at Harvard, you don't have that excuse. You had the numbers, and the cost is the same. So we're left with the fact that your potential for success was deemed to be subpar, and/or your personality was... off.

Not for everybody. I know for me having the Yellow Ribbon Program from the Army made Harvard quite a bit cheaper than Yale. But seriously, I think only people in law school really care about that stuff.

unc0mm0n1 wrote: But seriously, I think only people in law school really care about that stuff.

But seriously, I just think HLS wannabes better be careful, that's all. One misstep could screw you over for life.

stellina wrote:If you go to Columbia, the answer to "why not Yale?" could be that I had too much fun freshman year of college (I'm a sociable bro!), so my overall GPA was only 3.7. Or it could be that they offered you a Hamilton.

If you're at Harvard, you don't have that excuse. You had the numbers, and the cost is the same. So we're left with the fact that your potential for success was deemed to be subpar, and/or your personality was... off.

CLS is teeming with chill sociable bros

i just couldn't see myself spending three years in new haven lol!

Desert Fox wrote:

GreenTee wrote:This thread has promise.

At first I was a little surprised my co-worker asked. But her reasoning was this: The difference between Yale students and Harvard students isn't GPA or LSAT it is the intangibles.

Well, yeah.

Lots of people at H have non yale numbers. There are 560 in the class.

Pneumonia wrote:Lots of people at H have non yale numbers. There are 560 in the class.

you know what he meant

El Pollito wrote:

Pneumonia wrote:Lots of people at H have non yale numbers. There are 560 in the class.

you know what he meant

Yeah I'm just maybe debating that it's intangibles only; I mean yeah people at H don't have AAA softs to the extent that people at Yale do. But it's not just that- a lot of HLS kids are weaker on numbers too.

Pneumonia wrote:Lots of people at H have non yale numbers. There are 560 in the class.

Y: 170/173/176
H: 170/173/175

Y: 3.82/3.91/3.97
H: 3.75/3.87/3.95

Look pretty identical to me.

Point is even for the low-stats, high-softs people who get into H, there's always going to be that question.

Buyer beware.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/harvard- ... 1413957603

In light of the recent numbers, isn't the question, "Why Yale, are you just a prestige whore?"

As a dude who got into HLS and YLS and chose HLS, the simple answers are: (1) I liked Cambridge/Boston way better than New Haven, (2) I liked the idea of a bigger environment (See, e.g., Federalist Number 10), (3) I went to a New Haven-type town for undergrad. and was utterly miserable, (4) Cambridge>>>>New Haven, and (5) See (4), (3) and (1).

Did I make the rational choice? Probs not. Am I happy? Yeah. Any regrets? Nah.

A note: I know people at YLS and HLS and though they are all "intelligent" in a conventional sense, I think the added neuroticism, egos, inflated sense of importance, gunnerish-ness, selfishness, weirdness, etc. of [many of] these people far outweighs the pros of them. I'm pretty jaded though. Dunno if this post makes sense but it's 12:30 AM and I'm too lazy to edit it again.

Desert Fox wrote:Think twice before accepting harvard. A coworker asked a HLS grad, why not Yale and the person just stammered and looked visibly ashamed.

That's pretty dumb. Where do you work that they do not want Harvard but want Yale law students? Also, that could also be another throw someone off question and wouldn't necessarily be worth answering beyond some BS answer.

CicerBRo wrote:As a dude who got into HLS and YLS and chose HLS, the simple answers are: (1) I liked Cambridge/Boston way better than New Haven, (2) I liked the idea of a bigger environment (See, e.g., Federalist Number 10), (3) I went to a New Haven-type town for undergrad. and was utterly miserable, (4) Cambridge>>>>New Haven, and (5) See (4), (3) and (1).

Did I make the rational choice? Probs not. Am I happy? Yeah. Any regrets? Nah.

A note: I know people at YLS and HLS and though they are all "intelligent" in a conventional sense, my I think the added neuroticism, egos, inflated sense of importance, gunnerish-ness, etc. outweigh the pros of these people. I'm pretty jaded though. Dunno if this post makes sense but it's 12:30 AM and I'm too lazy to edit it again.

You just cited Federalist No. 10 as a defense in a thread calling you and your pals socially off.

lacrossebrother wrote:

CicerBRo wrote:As a dude who got into HLS and YLS and chose HLS, the simple answers are: (1) I liked Cambridge/Boston way better than New Haven, (2) I liked the idea of a bigger environment (See, e.g., Federalist Number 10), (3) I went to a New Haven-type town for undergrad. and was utterly miserable, (4) Cambridge>>>>New Haven, and (5) See (4), (3) and (1).

Did I make the rational choice? Probs not. Am I happy? Yeah. Any regrets? Nah.

A note: I know people at YLS and HLS and though they are all "intelligent" in a conventional sense, my I think the added neuroticism, egos, inflated sense of importance, gunnerish-ness, etc. outweigh the pros of these people. I'm pretty jaded though. Dunno if this post makes sense but it's 12:30 AM and I'm too lazy to edit it again.

You just cited Federalist No. 10 as a defense in a thread calling you and your pals socially off.

On a scale of 1 to drunk, how many beers deep are you?

Bigger environment by itself might be legit. And maybe an essay supporting why bigger environments are better would be somewhat appropriate, even though still quite weird. But you cited a fucking paper warning of FACTIONS. JFC.

KD35 wrote:

lacrossebrother wrote:

CicerBRo wrote:As a dude who got into HLS and YLS and chose HLS, the simple answers are: (1) I liked Cambridge/Boston way better than New Haven, (2) I liked the idea of a bigger environment (See, e.g., Federalist Number 10), (3) I went to a New Haven-type town for undergrad. and was utterly miserable, (4) Cambridge>>>>New Haven, and (5) See (4), (3) and (1).

Did I make the rational choice? Probs not. Am I happy? Yeah. Any regrets? Nah.

A note: I know people at YLS and HLS and though they are all "intelligent" in a conventional sense, my I think the added neuroticism, egos, inflated sense of importance, gunnerish-ness, etc. outweigh the pros of these people. I'm pretty jaded though. Dunno if this post makes sense but it's 12:30 AM and I'm too lazy to edit it again.

You just cited Federalist No. 10 as a defense in a thread calling you and your pals socially off.

On a scale of 1 to drunk, how many beers deep are you?

sober enough to drive home from the bar asshole