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Should i bother applying to T-14 such as Georgetown/Duke or just go for the full scholarship at GWU?

Shelbinole wrote:Should i bother applying to T-14 such as Georgetown/Duke or just go for the full scholarship at GWU?

Don't ED. Blanket the T14 and T20 schools for leverage.

Don't ED. But if you did, you would probably get into UVA. You will get into GW regardless

TFALAWL wrote:Don't ED. But if you did, you would probably get into UVA. You will get into GW regardless

OP wouldn't ED to get in, OP would be EDing for the full ride. At least know what you're talking about before giving advice.

doesn't a full ride at gwu still end up costing you like $150k when you factor in living expenses and the fact that you won't get a job

Shelbinole wrote:Should i bother applying to T-14 such as Georgetown/Duke or just go for the full scholarship at GWU?

Well even if you ED you should probably still apply broadly on the chance you don't get it. I would also probably retake in your shoes and shoot higher.

trap school alert

james.bungles wrote:trap school alert

I also worry more about GWs employment score because it's such a big IP school, I feel like if you're not IP your chances at a good outcome are substantially less.

scottidsntknow wrote:

james.bungles wrote:trap school alert

I also worry more about GWs employment score because it's such a big IP school, I feel like if you're not IP your chances at a good outcome are substantially less.

I've always wondered if there were enough IP splitter engineers at NU to make an impact on the employment numbers.. But obviously that would be nowhere near the effect at GW.

suppy183 wrote:

scottidsntknow wrote:

james.bungles wrote:trap school alert

I also worry more about GWs employment score because it's such a big IP school, I feel like if you're not IP your chances at a good outcome are substantially less.

I've always wondered if there were enough IP splitter engineers at NU to make an impact on the employment numbers.. But obviously that would be nowhere near the effect at GW.

Yeah I'd think the effects would be more pronounced at GW.

I don't know why you would ED to GWU with those numbers. You're going to get better deals than that.

No

Blanket T14

Retake

Applicant with a 170/3.7 here. Oh my goodness gracious blanket the T14, you will do SO MUCH BETTER.

blanket t14 for sure, unless you can articulate a good reason for wanting to attend gwu
gwu isn't even the best school with "washington" and "university" in its name
(come to think of it, not even second best)

Thanks guys. I ended up applying RD. I'd like to go T-14 and have gotten into a few schools (UVA, Georgetown so far) but am worried about $$$ :/

Shelbinole wrote:Thanks guys. I ended up applying RD. I'd like to go T-14 and have gotten into a few schools (UVA, Georgetown so far) but am worried about $$$ :/

Applying to all of them gives you some leverage to hopefully negotiate for more money. You followed the smarter path OP.

If you're going to ED, ED Northwestern. It seems that they prefer 170+ LSAT for their full-ride ED, but maybe a 3.7/169 would still be competitive.

Shelbinole wrote:Thanks guys. I ended up applying RD. I'd like to go T-14 and have gotten into a few schools (UVA, Georgetown so far) but am worried about $$$ :/

Great decision, and congrats on the successes so far. You'll get some more an hopefully some offers that you can begin negotiating with.

EricHosmer wrote:If you're going to ED, ED Northwestern. It seems that they prefer 170+ LSAT for their full-ride ED, but maybe a 3.7/169 would still be competitive.

yeah, a below median gpa and below 75th lsat is competitive for a full ride
god the ed nu thing is such flame

Shelbinole wrote:Thanks guys. I ended up applying RD. I'd like to go T-14 and have gotten into a few schools (UVA, Georgetown so far) but am worried about $$$ :/

go hard on the schollys
don't let the t-14 moniker fool you into overpaying

Brut wrote:

EricHosmer wrote:If you're going to ED, ED Northwestern. It seems that they prefer 170+ LSAT for their full-ride ED, but maybe a 3.7/169 would still be competitive.

yeah, a below median gpa and below 75th lsat is competitive for a full ride
god the ed nu thing is such flame

You're probably right, but mylsn does list four non-URM applicants over the past few years who were accepted ED with a 3.54/169, a 3.76/168, 3.8/168, and one more 3.8/168. Most had a 172+ LSAT, though.

ashockofpink (3.76/168) was at median lsat and above median gpa, and had actual softs
jaredcal (3.8/168) was at median lsat and above median gpa
wildcats17 (3.8/168) was at median lsat and above median gpa

as for mullens (3.54/169), who knows what happened
he posts on tls, maybe i'll ask him
didn't hurt that he's from chi and went to a top ug

but he's an outlier, just look at the pool of nu ed applicants
his one data point doesn't make op "competitive", or probable, or even feasible
if you want to play the lottery, fine; it doesn't cost any more than the rd app
but nu is a good school with many strong applicants to give money to

people think they're more likely to get a deal out of nu than other t14s, but that's not the case
true, they have a relatively high median grant, fourth highest in the t14
but they give it to relatively few people, fourth lowest in the t14
furthermore, they have the fifth highest cost of attendance in the t14

in the half-to-full category, they're sixth highest, but while the schools ahead are substantially ahead, the next four schools down are within 3 percentage points
my back-of-the-envelope estimate is that around 31 students students out of 229 incoming 1Ls were in that group last year, both ed and rd pool
nu doesn't have any shortage of applicants above both medians applying
if they're going to give out 31 half-to-full schollies, i have a pretty good idea where they are going
nu uses ed not as a gift to applicants with decent but not stellar numbers, but as a way to firm up medians with strong applicants
they use it to have the right of first refusal

imho, those with very strong numbers and no particular interest in nu should play out their cycle, since nu isn't significantly more generous than any other school
if you have iffy numbers, you're out of retakes, and you don't mind sacrificing other full ride eds, play nu ed as a lotto ticket, but i think we should all stop inflating people's chances at getting it
if you're a heavy splitter, you prob should ed nu

Brut wrote:ashockofpink (3.76/168) was at median lsat and above median gpa, and had actual softs
jaredcal (3.8/168) was at median lsat and above median gpa
wildcats17 (3.8/168) was at median lsat and above median gpa

as for mullens (3.54/169), who knows what happened
he posts on tls, maybe i'll ask him
didn't hurt that he's from chi and went to a top ug

but he's an outlier, just look at the pool of nu ed applicants
his one data point doesn't make op "competitive", or probable, or even feasible
if you want to play the lottery, fine; it doesn't cost any more than the rd app
but nu is a good school with many strong applicants to give money to

people think they're more likely to get a deal out of nu than other t14s, but that's not the case
true, they have a relatively high median grant, fourth highest in the t14
but they give it to relatively few people, fourth lowest in the t14
furthermore, they have the fifth highest cost of attendance in the t14

in the half-to-full category, they're sixth highest, but while the schools ahead are substantially ahead, the next four schools down are within 3 percentage points
my back-of-the-envelope estimate is that around 31 students students out of 229 incoming 1Ls were in that group last year, both ed and rd pool
nu doesn't have any shortage of applicants above both medians applying
if they're going to give out 31 half-to-full schollies, i have a pretty good idea where they are going
nu uses ed not as a gift to applicants with decent but not stellar numbers, but as a way to firm up medians with strong applicants
they use it to have the right of first refusal

imho, those with very strong numbers and no particular interest in nu should play out their cycle, since nu isn't significantly more generous than any other school
if you have iffy numbers, you're out of retakes, and you don't mind sacrificing other full ride eds, play nu ed as a lotto ticket, but i think we should all stop inflating people's chances at getting it
if you're a heavy splitter, you prob should ed nu

I agree 100%. I wasn't very clear in my original post, but I did mean that if he should only ED NU as a lottery ticket. EDing any other T14 is wasting potential scholarships.

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