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Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:17 pm
by TheodoreKGB
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Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:20 pm
by McAvoy
My school ranks higher than Yale. It feels good.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:27 pm
by Frothingslosh
Samesies. Decision Validated.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:30 pm
by TheodoreKGB
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Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:31 pm
by bl1nds1ght
Iowa's 13th. Not bad. 8)

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:34 pm
by McAvoy
TheodoreKGB wrote:I was pretty surprised with Iowa. I know they reduced class size, but they're in the middle of nowhere.
Bet all those pretentious Yale folk are really kicking themselves.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:36 pm
by Attax
McAvoy wrote:
TheodoreKGB wrote:I was pretty surprised with Iowa. I know they reduced class size, but they're in the middle of nowhere.
Bet all those pretentious Yale folk are really kicking themselves.
Thank goodness I didn't go there!

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:38 pm
by TheodoreKGB
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Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:44 pm
by jw316
Just curious but given the TLS focus on retake until you can get T14/big law or bust mentality, and given the outcomes in the spreadsheet, why aren't Columbia, NYU, Penn, etc. suggested more over YHS?

Columbia: 88.4% 78.0%; Yale: 71.4% 65.5% ... difference of +17% and +12.5% odds by picking Columbia over Yale? Or do I have something confused?

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:45 pm
by reasonable person
This is meaningless for a variety of reasons. :roll:
If everyone who went to Yale wanted biglaw, they would be 100% employment score + 100% (biglaw+fedclerk)
Same goes for Harvard and Stanford, to a slightly lesser extent.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:45 pm
by McAvoy
jw316 wrote:Just curious but given the TLS focus on retake until you can get T14/big law or bust mentality, and given the outcomes in the spreadsheet, why aren't Columbia, NYU, Penn, etc. suggested more over YHS?
Because this methodology is fucking stupid

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:52 pm
by jw316
McAvoy wrote:
jw316 wrote:Just curious but given the TLS focus on retake until you can get T14/big law or bust mentality, and given the outcomes in the spreadsheet, why aren't Columbia, NYU, Penn, etc. suggested more over YHS?
Because this methodology is fucking stupid
Care to elaborate?

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:53 pm
by lhanvt13
interesting.
#CNP

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:56 pm
by butlerraider1
jw316 wrote:
McAvoy wrote:
jw316 wrote:Just curious but given the TLS focus on retake until you can get T14/big law or bust mentality, and given the outcomes in the spreadsheet, why aren't Columbia, NYU, Penn, etc. suggested more over YHS?
Because this methodology is fucking stupid
Care to elaborate?
reasonable person wrote:This is meaningless for a variety of reasons. :roll:
If everyone who went to Yale wanted biglaw, they would be 100% employment score + 100% (biglaw+fedclerk)
Same goes for Harvard and Stanford, to a slightly lesser extent.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:58 pm
by jw316
butlerraider1 wrote:
jw316 wrote:
McAvoy wrote:
jw316 wrote:Just curious but given the TLS focus on retake until you can get T14/big law or bust mentality, and given the outcomes in the spreadsheet, why aren't Columbia, NYU, Penn, etc. suggested more over YHS?
Because this methodology is fucking stupid
Care to elaborate?
reasonable person wrote:This is meaningless for a variety of reasons. :roll:
If everyone who went to Yale wanted biglaw, they would be 100% employment score + 100% (biglaw+fedclerk)
Same goes for Harvard and Stanford, to a slightly lesser extent.
So TCR is still YHS-CCN-PVB-DMNCG?

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:04 pm
by TheodoreKGB
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Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:05 pm
by lhanvt13
jw316 wrote:
So TCR is still YHS-CCN-PVB-DMNC?
dat anti GULC

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:07 pm
by butlerraider1
reasonable person wrote:This is meaningless for a variety of reasons. :roll:
If everyone who went to Yale wanted biglaw, they would be 100% employment score + 100% (biglaw+fedclerk)
Same goes for Harvard and Stanford, to a slightly lesser extent.
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So TCR is still YHS-CCN-PVB-DMNC?[/quote]

the lower BL + FC numbers for YHS is due mostly to self-selection. I believe that was the poster's point.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:08 pm
by bl1nds1ght
TheodoreKGB wrote:I was pretty surprised with Iowa. I know they reduced class size, but they're in the middle of nowhere.
You're right that Iowa's in the middle of nowhere, but it's oddly centrally located when it comes to the Des Moines, Minneapolis, Chicago, and Kansas City metro areas. Also, it's a huge state school (30k students / year). Roughly 2/5 of the state's college grads went to UI, so finding connections to locals is super easy.

Plus, also strangely, Iowa has pretty good connections to DC because of huge money in energy and farming, hence the above average FC #s for Iowa's rank.

It's a good school if you want to stay in the IA/MN/NE/KA/IL area and don't care too much about biglaw, but want strong placement.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:12 pm
by jw316
lhanvt13 wrote:
jw316 wrote:
So TCR is still YHS-CCN-PVB-DMNC?
dat anti GULC
Nah just forgot, sometimes I'm bad at the maths. But is the above still TCR (with GULC)?

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:38 pm
by ikethegremlin
jw316 wrote:
lhanvt13 wrote:
jw316 wrote:
So TCR is still YHS-CCN-PVB-DMNC?
dat anti GULC
Nah just forgot, sometimes I'm bad at the maths. But is the above still TCR (with GULC)?
Does there have a to be a right answer?

'TCR' is that you should go to the most appropriate school for your chosen career path. YHS will probably give you the greatest flexibility and opportunities, though clearly for biglaw you don't lose anything by going to Columbia. Whether or not that makes them the best school for you has to be a totally personal thing.

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:52 pm
by The Dark Shepard
You can't take the school funded rate at the bottom. That includes short-term or part-time school-funded positions. You follow the red asterick(i.e. Minnesota's FTLT school-funded is 1.8, not 8.8)

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:01 pm
by TheodoreKGB
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Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:16 pm
by withoutapaddle
Why is Yale's employment so bad?

Re: Reworked/Reranked LST Data in Spreadsheet

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:23 pm
by bl1nds1ght
withoutapaddle wrote:Why is Yale's employment so bad?
I gotchoo bruv :mrgreen:

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