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GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:48 am
by IrishCatholic09
GULC total cost - $178k
NU total cost - $187k
Would prefer either BigLaw or a BigFed policy job. Really more concerned about the debt than the rest of it.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:21 am
by Winston1984
Without knowing where you want to work, NU. No way Georgetown is worth that much. I wouldn't pay that much for NU either, but at least you have a much better shot at biglaw. Stats? How many times have you taken the LSAT?
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:24 am
by 03152016
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:39 am
by IrishCatholic09
These would be total COA figures in loans. I have big scholarship offers from both ( in the 2/3 tuition range). I had a 3.5~ GPA and a 170 LSAT. Only took it once. I'd like to either go big law transactional for a few years and then in-house or the same in the regulatory side (hence, GULC). What prices would someone pay for places like these? The cost is just so high, and I don't have the option of familial help.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:48 am
by 03152016
i'd go with nu here
i just wouldn't feel comfortable taking out big debt for gulc given their bl+fc
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:16 am
by IrishCatholic09
I feel like you're probably right Brut, but I guess part of me is still curious. How low a price should I have been looking for from these two schools?
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:29 am
by Tiago Splitter
2/3 off is a great deal, but that's like 110k over three years and it's hard to believe that's what you're getting if you would still end up with 180k in debt. Regardless, Northwestern has much better job prospects so I'd take that if the costs are this close.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:30 am
by FSK
Does either place better into NY? DCs a hard nut to crack, at least at the top DC firms, so your main plan should be NY transnational until you have grades to do otherwise. Chicago also seems to be very ties/grade selective, so that's something.....
I sort of imagine that GU has more placement into NY (location, top in its city), but only a guess. NU has better jop prospects overall though, so that's something.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:31 am
by IrishCatholic09
Yeah, the problem is it's close to 2/3 tuition. It's the cost of living part that kills.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:43 am
by Tiago Splitter
20k a year in tuition and another 20k a year in living expenses won't get you to 187k in debt.
If you're really worried about debt you are going to need to re-apply this year to regional schools that place in your desired market and give full rides. Those often don't exist. And given your goal of Biglaw you'll probably need to just suck it up and pay for NU. So I guess either take the plunge or come up with new goals.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:03 pm
by TheSpanishMain
Why no Cornell? Good BigLaw placement, would likely give you a nice scholarship, and cost of living in Ithaca is cheap.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:10 pm
by IrishCatholic09
I mean, the other option that I always saw as a backup was to get a job on Capitol Hill out of school if things weren't working out. I have a few years of political experience/have lived in DC for a few years, and I liked the idea of Georgetown's connections around town.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:20 pm
by Hutz_and_Goodman
At these costs neither is the credited answer. If you have to pick one then definitely NU.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:31 pm
by IrishCatholic09
On the off chance that I could lower the costs somehow...How much lower would each have to go to make sense?
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:33 pm
by TheSpanishMain
I would think that something like 125 is reasonable for NU and 100 for GU.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:34 pm
by star fox
How are you getting 180K in debt with a 2/3 scholarship? Is this including carry-over UG loans?
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:18 pm
by IrishCatholic09
I misspoke, or should say mistyped. I meant to say around 60% of tuition, but was a little preoccupied and then stuck with the same fraction. That said, it's the tuition +COL + interest.
Ugh, I honestly didn't want to leave DC I don't think deep down.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:22 pm
by TheSpanishMain
IrishCatholic09 wrote:
Ugh, I honestly didn't want to leave DC I don't think deep down.
I mean, I'm going to GU, and I'd like to suggest that so we can hit up some the Capitol Hill pubs and listen to the Pogues. (I assume you're a Pogues fan given your username, otherwise GTFO). I just can't in good conscience suggest paying that much, especially for BigLaw. If you were Gov/PI committed and could fall back on LRAP, maybe. But for BigLaw that are just better options.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:23 pm
by Hutz_and_Goodman
IrishCatholic09 wrote:I misspoke, or should say mistyped. I meant to say around 60% of tuition, but was a little preoccupied and then stuck with the same fraction. That said, it's the tuition +COL + interest.
Ugh, I honestly didn't want to leave DC I don't think deep down.
If you don't want to leave D.C. I would go to American or GWU for free/near free before either of these options. If you are going to choose one of these law schools, please sit down first and make a sample budget where you have $100k in income (after tax salary of $160k in NYC), and figure out rent, food, loan payments, entertainment, phone/tv, etc. Also take a look at what age you will be after loans are repaid.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:33 pm
by IrishCatholic09
This is ridiculous. Is there even a point to all of this if I can get over 60% tuition covered by a school this high and these are still the options?
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:36 pm
by FSK
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:IrishCatholic09 wrote:I misspoke, or should say mistyped. I meant to say around 60% of tuition, but was a little preoccupied and then stuck with the same fraction. That said, it's the tuition +COL + interest.
Ugh, I honestly didn't want to leave DC I don't think deep down.
If you don't want to leave D.C. I would go to American or GWU for free/near free before either of these options. If you are going to choose one of these law schools, please sit down first and make a sample budget where you have $100k in income (after tax salary of $160k in NYC), and figure out rent, food, loan payments, entertainment, phone/tv, etc. Also take a look at what age you will be after loans are repaid.
Going to GWU free is fine. Never go to american.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:37 pm
by FSK
IrishCatholic09 wrote:This is ridiculous. Is there even a point to all of this if I can get over 60% tuition covered by a school this high and these are still the options?
TLS is very conservative. The boart has seem too many people get burnt by law school. If you want to go biglaw or bust, your options are retake or go for it. Pick one and live with it. All you can do.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:40 pm
by Paul Campos
flawschoolkid wrote:Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:IrishCatholic09 wrote:I misspoke, or should say mistyped. I meant to say around 60% of tuition, but was a little preoccupied and then stuck with the same fraction. That said, it's the tuition +COL + interest.
Ugh, I honestly didn't want to leave DC I don't think deep down.
If you don't want to leave D.C. I would go to American or GWU for free/near free before either of these options. If you are going to choose one of these law schools, please sit down first and make a sample budget where you have $100k in income (after tax salary of $160k in NYC), and figure out rent, food, loan payments, entertainment, phone/tv, etc. Also take a look at what age you will be after loans are repaid.
Going to GWU free is fine.
Never go to american.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:53 pm
by acr
Attending American could quite possibly be one of the worst decisions anyone could ever make in life.
Re: GULC vs NU
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:11 am
by Yea All Right
If you are set on going this fall, then pick NU and don't look back. The increased job prospects are definitely worth the extra 9k in my opinion.
Although your predilection for DC makes it complicated...