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Partimers at GW do very poorly at OCI, even with IP.

flawschoolkid wrote:Partimers at GW do very poorly at OCI, even with IP.

Erroneous. Even PT folks with CS/CE (as OP referenced) do extremely well.

Only if GWU offers you a lot of money. GULC almost never offers part-timers scholarships, but GWU's full ride ED actually does extend to PT kids.

Nammertat wrote:

flawschoolkid wrote:Partimers at GW do very poorly at OCI, even with IP.

Erroneous. Even PT folks with CS/CE (as OP referenced) do extremely well.

Truth. Do not doubt the strength of GW's IP program. I've seen it work very, very well firsthand.

Take GW if you get >=100k. With CS, you are pretty much guaranteed biglaw out of Gtown. At GW, you still will have to be top 40 to top third AT LEAST (if you went to a top ugrad, though, your chances will improve).

Heads up, GW curves the part time students with a full time section in 2/3 doctrinal classes.

Nat Sherman wrote:Heads up, GW curves the part time students with a full time section in 2/3 doctrinal classes.

Huh...didn't know that. Wow, that's retarded...how do they expect part timers to keep up with the workload?

misanthrope wrote:

Nat Sherman wrote:Heads up, GW curves the part time students with a full time section in 2/3 doctrinal classes.

Huh...didn't know that. Wow, that's retarded...how do they expect part timers to keep up with the workload?

Part time only takes 2 exams their first semester, 3 their second vs 4 for full time. So that's how they justify it. Some would argue the full time section they curve them with is softer. It only has class after noon and no class Friday. Most of the people are those who self select into it, and wait list people who get added late in the admission cycle, so you could make an argument that it's not the brightest section. From the people I know in it, it seems like it's easier to get the B+'s and A-'s in the classes they share with part time students because a lot of part timers pad the bottom of the class because they either don't have time to study, or don't care because they're already a patent agent at some firm and have a job secured when they graduate.

misanthrope wrote:Take GW if you get >=100k. With CS, you are pretty much guaranteed biglaw out of Gtown. At GW, you still will have to be top 40 to top third AT LEAST (if you went to a top ugrad, though, your chances will improve).

False. I personally know CS people in the bottom third who are in BigLaw. Where do people pull these random shots in the dark from? Also, in my experience, employers couldn't care less where you went to undergrad. I suppose MIT or Penn would be a boost, but someone with CS from southwest Mississippi state wouldn't have a problem in this market.

Edit: Ahhh, nm I see.... Misanthrope is a 0L @ GULC. Question answered.

Not a 0L; I'm a rising 2L who summered at a V100's patent lit group this year. First of all, my intention was not to offend GW; I was just speaking from what I observed of the other summers: The GT, UVA and Duke summers I spoke to had below median to median grades, but the GW kids said they had top 1/3 honors. But in retrospect, this is probably too small a sample size to make comparisons. I don't think it's controversial, however, that OP would have a much easier time getting Biglaw from GT with shitty grades than from GW.

As for undergrad boosts: this is most assuredly a thing, at least according to the associates who interviewed me. If you have median grades from a T50 law school like, say, ASU, but went to MIT/CarnegieMellon/Berkeley for undergrad in CS, you have a good shot of getting hired. If you went to Ole Miss for ugrad, on the other hand, your chances even with CS are low.

misanthrope wrote:Not a 0L; I'm a rising 2L who summered at a V100's patent lit group this year. First of all, my intention was not to offend GW; I was just speaking from what I observed of the other summers: The GT, UVA and Duke summers I spoke to had below median to median grades, but the GW kids said they had top 1/3 honors. But in retrospect, this is probably too small a sample size to make comparisons. I don't think it's controversial, however, that OP would have a much easier time getting Biglaw from GT with shitty grades than from GW.

As for undergrad boosts: this is most assuredly a thing, at least according to the associates who interviewed me. If you have median grades from a T50 law school like, say, ASU, but went to MIT/CarnegieMellon/Berkeley for undergrad in CS, you have a good shot of getting hired. If you went to Ole Miss for ugrad, on the other hand, your chances even with CS are low.

This is kind of a rough statement, considering people with terrible grades from either school will be in dire employment conditions (just in case there's a 0L out there thinking that CS + any JD outside Yale = job regardless of grades). Nonetheless, your point isn't absurd- I would assume that the bottom quartile at GULC fares better, even in IP. However, I'd wager that this trend flips quickly as you move away from the bottom 10% (there has to be data on this, right?).