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Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:26 am
by Branruss
Offered 25k to both schools. Same stips- must stay in the top 80% of your class. Please do not say retake, I am 100% going to one of these schools this Fall. Which would you choose?

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:45 am
by timbs4339
That's 170K of debt. Nope. You need biglaw to pay it off and you are not getting biglaw. What about Rutgers and why can't you retake/reapply?

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:03 pm
by WaltGrace83
This is not going to end well....

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:06 pm
by Ramius
unequivocally neither

Retake/reapply or don't go

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:09 pm
by WaltGrace83
Sorry Branruss but, at these prices, these are objectively terrible choices that make zero sense unless you are sitting on a wad of cash and don't know what to do with yourself.

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:14 pm
by Ramius
Not that this will change anything, but what are your goals OP?

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:16 pm
by FSK
Branruss wrote:Offered 25k to both schools. Same stips- must stay in the top 80% of your class. Please do not say retake, I am 100% going to one of these schools this Fall. Which would you choose?
"I'm going to make a terrible but avoidable choice. How do I avoid taking the clearly better outcome, without any explanation as to why? Don't judge"

This is really what you just asked. Come on now...

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:23 pm
by John Everyman
Don't not retake. Don't take the 25K discount on a legal education that has consistently been increasing in cost at an astronomical pace relative to the real earning power of lawyers. You can do it, be a success story, go get some w/e and study up for the LSAT using the materials on this site. The world is your oyster. You're a peacock, fly!

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:34 pm
by TheSpanishMain
Branruss wrote:Please do not say retake, I am 100% going to one of these schools this Fall. Which would you choose?
If you're going to rule out the only possible correct answer right off the bat, why bother asking?

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:39 pm
by rahulg91
John Everyman wrote:The world is your oyster. You're a peacock, fly!
I vote instead of just saying retake, we start using a variation of this.

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:39 pm
by ymmv
TheSpanishMain wrote:
Branruss wrote:Please do not say retake, I am 100% going to one of these schools this Fall. Which would you choose?
If you're going to rule out the only possible correct answer right off the bat, why bother asking?

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:40 pm
by zoomzoom88
i am at SHU with almost a full ride and i would not reccommend going here for less. but if this is really what you're going to do it comes down to working in NJ or NYC. If you want to work in NJ go to shu.

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:45 pm
by McAvoy
ymmv wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:
Branruss wrote:Please do not say retake, I am 100% going to one of these schools this Fall. Which would you choose?
If you're going to rule out the only possible correct answer right off the bat, why bother asking?

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:46 pm
by ManoftheHour
rahulg91 wrote:
John Everyman wrote:The world is your oyster. You're a peacock, fly!
I vote instead of just saying retake, we start using a variation of this.
There already is one of these.

It's "Good luck! Follow your dreams!"

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:48 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:50 pm
by jingosaur
It really depends. Do you want to do document review in a warehouse in Jersey City while paying off $150k in debt or do you want to do document review in the basement of an office building in New York City while paying off $150k in debt?

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:25 pm
by 03152016
jingosaur wrote:It really depends. Do you want to do document review in a warehouse in Jersey City while paying off $150k in debt or do you want to do document review in the basement of an office building in New York City while paying off $150k in debt?
don't be too rosy in your outlook, that's not doing him any favors
there's a good chance of just straight, unmitigated unemployment
that describes more than one out of ten grads from these two schools, not even working part-time as a barista, let alone in one of the coveted warehouses or basements you describe

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:04 pm
by LafayetteJeff
I am basically with the others.

Do you realllly want to be in NJ? I mean, SHU has a lot of white male alums running the NJ political establishment (C. Christie and his goons) and a good number of judges, but do you want to be there? Because that's your best bet. Don't go to SHU if you'd rather end up in NYC or beyond the region. Also-- what would you pay at Rutgers? I am curious because their list price starts out so much lower than SHU.

What's your debt gonna be, like 80k for each of these, conservatively?

I think Bk is a great school in a great spot, and I see its alums in a lot of decent places, but it's really underperformed in terms of outcomes. Worth the 80k (conservatively) risk? You tell me.

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:13 pm
by exitoptions
Your odds are way better if you just take the money to AC and bet on black.

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:35 pm
by cron1834
Good luck! Follow your dreams!

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:44 pm
by JCougar
exitoptions wrote:Your odds are way better if you just take the money to AC and bet on black.
This.

OP, either of the above options probably gives you at least a 90% failure rate. Do not go to either school for that much money.

Honestly, I think you have better odds getting into the heroin trade, making a huge profit, and getting out--without getting killed by a rival dealer or busted by the cops.

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:59 pm
by transferror
Branruss wrote:Please do not say retake
Fine, but you should really ___________

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:26 pm
by ManoftheHour
Paul Campos wrote:Why do people post these threads? (Not a rhetorical question). It's like someone walking into an AA meeting and asking whether he should drink a fifth of vodka or gin.

Don't tell me to stay sober because I've already decided to get wasted tonight. Also I'll be driving.
From this thread:
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=232074

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:04 pm
by banjo
Retaking the LSAT was one of the smartest decisions I made in life. You know that's what you should do too, OP.

Re: Seton Hall or Brooklyn Law?

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:11 pm
by guano
Would you rather walk the trail of tears or take the train to auschwitz?