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Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:28 am
by NYPoker
So I am having a tough time choosing a school. A little background, I had been working for an elder care attorney since freshman year of college. Upon graduation last year I was given a full time job as a paralegal with the same attorney. I have now applied to law school and have heard back from 3. My LSAT scores were a 149 and 150. My undergrad GPA at St. John's was a 3.8. My goal is to become a partner with the attorney I work for now as she has expressed this interest to me. My dilemma is the following: I have received admission into Hostra Law with no scholarship. I have received admission into Touro Law with a $23,000 scholarship. I have been waitlisted at St. John's Law. I am waiting to hear back from Rutgers, Brooklyn, and CUNY Law. I am unsure as to what to do and was hoping someone on this board could give me some advice. Both Hofstra and Touro have deposit dates of 5/15/14 for $400 and $800 respectively. Thank you for any advice.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:33 pm
by 052220151
Retake bro.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:37 pm
by TheSpanishMain
Retake so hard, man. There's virtually no way to make a good investment with a 150 LSAT. How did you study?
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:47 pm
by KatyMarie
Yeah, stay in your paralegal position if you can and retake.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:50 pm
by Nova
Don't waste your 3.8 on those schools.
Definitly retake, but wait till you're PTing at at least 165+ consistantly
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:05 pm
by rickgrimes69
I'd rather be a paralegal forever than attending any law school that will accept a 150 LSAT
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:46 pm
by Ricky-Bobby
rickgrimes69 wrote:I'd rather be a paralegal forever than attending any law school that will accept a 150 LSAT
Yale admitted a 152 last year. I so wanted it to be a 150 for that extra shithead factor.
*Note to OP: Your plans are great (having a job you like lined up before school), but you still need to retake and get free tuition at one of these three schools.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:10 pm
by tourostudent
Hi!
I am a current Touro student. Congrats on getting into Law School! I would definitely recommend you coming to Touro if you are interested in
Elder Law because the school is implementing a bunch of new opportunities in
Elder Law. If you do not want to take the LSAT again (which I assume you wouldn't because your score is not likely to have a dramatic increase) then I recommend going to school that gives you the most amount of scholarship money. If that's Touro then welcome! If CUNY accepts you, I would definitely consider CUNY because their tuition is dirt cheap and they are highly respected in the area of public interest law. The legal market is in a state of flux right now that you don't want to risk going to law school paying full price.
About Touro now...My experience here has been great. I am in the top of my class, have a scholarship, got a fellowship for the summer, got more than 4 job offers for the summer, and received the CALI award for two classes. However, one thing i do not like about Touro is that there are not many opportunities for students outside of the Long Island area. That may be a good thing for you if you live on the island and want to start your career here (there are many notable firms in long island, such as Rivkin, and Rosicki). However, for students wanting to work in Manhattan, it is limited to the top 10% (which I am in - but I want you to know what you are getting yourself into).
Law School is Law School no matter where you go. After a couple of years out in practice no one is going to care where you went, they would just want to know if you could do the work. Hope this post helps!
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:11 pm
by tourostudent
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:19 pm
by 09042014
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:25 pm
by Nomo
Definitely don't go to any of these schools.
Is Touro guy real?
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:30 pm
by Nova
tourostudent wrote:If you do not want to take the LSAT again (which I assume you wouldn't because your score is not likely to have a dramatic increase)
How would you know?
Law School is Law School no matter where you go. After a couple of years out in practice no one is going to care where you went, they would just want to know if you could do the work. Hope this post helps!
entry level opportunity vary dramatically depending on the law school yo attend. Half of Touro will not practice law as a career.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:40 pm
by unodostres
touro shill lol
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:50 pm
by thsmthcrmnl
tourostudent wrote:If you do not want to take the LSAT again (which I assume you wouldn't because your score is not likely to have a dramatic increase) then I recommend going to school that gives you the most amount of scholarship money.
Bold-faced lie
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:57 pm
by tourostudent
did any of you above offer any real insight or advice? Who cares about the half of Touro that won't practice.. i just care about myself. Also many LSAT tutors even say that scores don't drastically increase. Focus on the post that you clicked on
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:01 pm
by unodostres
you need to be banned for promoting financial suicide
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:08 pm
by Nova
tourostudent wrote:Who cares about the half of Touro that won't practice..
applicants
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:25 pm
by Jwood
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Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:58 pm
by Ricky-Bobby
tuorostudent, do you count as a "school-funded" position on the ABA reports?
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:23 pm
by rickgrimes69
tourostudent wrote:did any of you above offer any real insight or advice? Who cares about the half of Touro that won't practice.. i just care about myself. Also many LSAT tutors even say that scores don't drastically increase. Focus on the post that you clicked on
Who? Seems like a shitty marketing pitch
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:57 pm
by Clearly
I mean, I'm all for the attack the ttt routine, but we do have statistics, and he's right about retakes on average.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:03 am
by tourostudent
Financial suicide? You should be banned for speaking without saying anything of substance and value.

Financial suicide is the nature of law schools right now if you are not aware. Law school in general is in a state of flux. Everyone here seem to have some opinion on a particular school that they never attended but only have read about. It's ok though...I guess its pick on the touro kid today.

Rick Grimes - the one you took.
To the original poster:
- As you can see there is a lot of dislike towards Touro. I only chose the school because of the generous scholarship that made it basically free. Re-take the LSAT and reapply. If not, then go to the school that gives you the most money. Also take everyone's advice with a grain of salt. As you can see, we are all little biased.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:17 am
by lillovegoesfar
you should retake the lsat....but if u don't... go to wherever gives you the most money...every law school is financial suicide if your paying full price..the touro kid is actually right....
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:28 am
by NorCalLaw
tourostudent wrote:did any of you above offer any real insight or advice? Who cares about the half of Touro that won't practice.. i just care about myself. Also many LSAT tutors even say that scores don't drastically increase. Focus on the post that you clicked on
Then why do you purport to give out useful advice? If you can't see beyond your own experience you have no business advising others.
Re: Hofstra, Touro, or St. John's
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:32 am
by IAFG
ask the atty what you will make if you join the practice, then do the math on your graduate debt and monthly payments. i think you'll find you can't really afford to take any of these offers given your goal.