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What are your goals if biglaw doesn't work out? There's a 70% chance of that being the case. Ties (assuming Chi ...)? Retakes remaining? Pretty important info left out.

With the info provided, I'd personally choose UIUC b/c cheap, but I think more data is needed.

cron1834 wrote:What are your goals if biglaw doesn't work out? There's a 70% chance of that being the case. Ties (assuming Chi ...)? Retakes remaining? Pretty important info left out.

With the info provided, I'd personally choose UIUC b/c cheap, but I think more data is needed.

Sorry, I have a near 180, so retake is pointless, and I have ties to Chicago. I don't have my heart set on any job in particular, but I do like the idea of big law for awhile. I would appreciate any job in which I'd be making $50K or more, as that would be the highest paying job I've ever had by a mile. I'm happy to provide any other info that will make this easier to analyze.

Illinois looks best for this because their employment numbers are approximately equivalent to Wash U's on LST while the cost is lower. Northwestern might be good if they end up throwing in a scholarship or if you have family you could live with in Chicago as you mentioned. That would be a huge advantage with Northwestern in terms of lower cost of living.

So, you're an extreme-extreme splitter, and those >>><<< were not exaggerations!

This is outside of my 0L wheelhouse. I will defer - hopefully some splitters-in-residence will help advise.

BanjoCalhoun wrote:Illinois looks best for this because their employment numbers are approximately equivalent to Wash U's on LST while the cost is lower. Northwestern might be good if they end up throwing in a scholarship or if you have family you could live with in Chicago as you mentioned. That would be a huge advantage with Northwestern in terms of lower cost of living.

Thank you. I understand Illinois has less portability than wustl, so it'd be Chicago or bust, which kind of scares me. I may be able to live at home for 1 year, but almost certainly no more.

cron1834 wrote:So, you're an extreme-extreme splitter, and those >>><<< were not exaggerations!

This is outside of my 0L wheelhouse. I will defer - hopefully some splitters-in-residence will help advise.

Yea, you could say that, but no T14 love. Thanks for your words anyways.

BanjoCalhoun wrote:Illinois looks best for this because their employment numbers are approximately equivalent to Wash U's on LST while the cost is lower. Northwestern might be good if they end up throwing in a scholarship or if you have family you could live with in Chicago as you mentioned. That would be a huge advantage with Northwestern in terms of lower cost of living.

+1 to this

thebobs1987 wrote:

BanjoCalhoun wrote:Illinois looks best for this because their employment numbers are approximately equivalent to Wash U's on LST while the cost is lower. Northwestern might be good if they end up throwing in a scholarship or if you have family you could live with in Chicago as you mentioned. That would be a huge advantage with Northwestern in terms of lower cost of living.

+1 to this

Thanks thebobs

my question to you is when did you apply?

1Lin2015 wrote:my question to you is when did you apply?

Before December for all schools, why?

workaholic82 wrote:

1Lin2015 wrote:my question to you is when did you apply?

Before December for all schools, why?

To determine whether you might have a different result if you waited a year and reapplied.

rinkrat19 wrote:

workaholic82 wrote:

1Lin2015 wrote:my question to you is when did you apply?

Before December for all schools, why?

To determine whether you might have a different result if you waited a year and reapplied.

Oh, i see. Aside from an even better buyer's market, i doubt it. Applied pretty early. For my gpa, these results are near the top of my expectation.

Applying after December would seriously change the schools that are willing to admit you.

But if you applied in November/December I guess its a coinflip. That is, if you applied in September next cycle, it might not make a big difference (who knows).

1Lin2015 wrote:Applying after December would seriously change the schools that are willing to admit you.

But if you applied in November/December I guess its a coinflip. That is, if you applied in September next cycle, it might not make a big difference (who knows).

I'm also fairly older (30's), so i think waiting is not a good idea. I applied in October and early November, so i doubt September would make a huge difference anyway. I gather from this line of question you see these options as borderline unacceptable?

Where in the T-14 did you apply?

I would also consider your position. If you have a decent-paying job (meaning, you accumulate savings), it might be in your favor to wait a cycle and take a shot applying in September of next cycle. Especially for splitters, applying early is crucial. At this point next year, your savings would also make accepting Northwestern easier if you aren't given a good scholly.

1Lin2015 wrote:Where in the T-14 did you apply?

I would also consider your position. If you have a decent-paying job (meaning, you accumulate savings), it might be in your favor to wait a cycle and take a shot applying in September of next cycle. Especially for splitters, applying early is crucial. At this point next year, your savings would also make accepting Northwestern easier if you aren't given a good scholly.

My job barely cracks 30 k, so we're talking saving maybe 5-10 k in a year. I applied to uva, penn and nu. Ding from the first 2.

Not really. I just think that you're settling, given your LSAT score.

1Lin2015 wrote:Not really. I just think that you're settling, given your LSAT score.

You may not be considering how bad my gpa is...would rather not say exactly, but probably worse than you think. I will think about what you've said though, and thanks for your comments.

1Lin2015 wrote:Not really. I just think that you're settling, given your LSAT score.

OP is an extreme splitter. With the t14 a GPA in the low 2s will usually keep you from getting in even with close to a 180. NU is really the only t14 that would probably accept him.

thebobs1987 wrote:

1Lin2015 wrote:Not really. I just think that you're settling, given your LSAT score.

OP is an extreme splitter. With the t14 a GPA in the low 2s will usually keep you from getting in even with close to a 180. NU is really the only t14 that would probably accept him.

Yea, exactly. I thought about ed'ing UVA, but sticker shock would be more than i can handle. My only hope is NU.

Meh, I'm thinking 2.6-2.8. Your chances at Georgetown and Cornell are likely as good as Northwestern. But since you didn't apply particularly late and you probably won't see any T-14 scholly with a re-apply, a big scholly from a school that feeds into a region you're willing to work is your best bet. With your options, take Illinois. But you have a strong chance to get into a T20-30 with good scholly if you would rather not be in Chicago.

1Lin2015 wrote:Meh, I'm thinking 2.6-2.8. Your chances at Georgetown and Cornell are likely as good as Northwestern. But since you didn't apply particularly late and you probably won't see any T-14 scholly with a re-apply, a big scholly from a school that feeds into a region you're willing to work is your best bet. With your options, take Illinois. But you have a strong chance to get into a T20-30 with good scholly if you would rather not be in Chicago.

No, lower. i wouldn't get much if any $ from Cornell, which would be silly expensive, and TLS has done a good job making me a nonbeliever in Georgetown. I was rejected from usc and ucla, waitlisted at u minn, emory and GW, got Indiana and iowa but with no $. I don't think waiting does enough at this point to justify it.

Thanks for the responses all. You make tls great! I welcome more comments if anyone agrees/disagrees with the apparent u Illinois consensus

if you were WL'd at minnesota than your grades really do suck (no offense)

first thing I'd do before jumping into law school is figure out what went so wrong for your bachelors and fix it. Aint no rest for the wicked or lazy as a 1L, and you're totally fucked at any of these schools if you can't get good grades