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If you want NYC, take Cornell. NYU isn't worth $70k more.

As far as the south, I get the OCI thing, but that could be explained by the fact that NYU is twice as large as Cornell and not many people go to either of those schools wanting to go to the south. If you mass mailed those firms and/or worked in one of those markets 1L, you'd have a decent shot of getting back there. To that end, I don't think NYU is worth 70k more than Cornell either.

The real question is can you take living in Ithica for three years? It's cold as fuck. Probably not cold enough to insta-kill someone from FL, but maybe enough to kill you over 6 semesters.

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Cornell is pretty regional - I wouldn't bank on getting to an ATL big law firm from there. You'd probably have to work in NY for a while and then lateral. There are some southern firms with NY offices that probably go to Cornell's OCI.

I would go to Cornell at these prices, but I'm not convinced either choice is all that great for your geographic goals.

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runinthefront wrote:

jbagelboy wrote:Cornell is pretty regional - I wouldn't bank on getting to an ATL big law firm from there. You'd probably have to work in NY for a while and then lateral. There are some southern firms with NY offices that probably go to Cornell's OCI.

I would go to Cornell at these prices, but I'm not convinced either choice is all that great for your geographic goals.

If you were financing solely through loans, at what price would you pick NYU over Cornell?

http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/nyu/cornell/

I'm not convinced that NYU is worth much more than Cornell. Their biglaw placement is virtually the same. Since you want the south, Duke, UVA, or Vandy would make more sense, honestly. But between the two, Cornell makes much more sense.

arklaw13 wrote:

runinthefront wrote:

jbagelboy wrote:Cornell is pretty regional - I wouldn't bank on getting to an ATL big law firm from there. You'd probably have to work in NY for a while and then lateral. There are some southern firms with NY offices that probably go to Cornell's OCI.

I would go to Cornell at these prices, but I'm not convinced either choice is all that great for your geographic goals.

If you were financing solely through loans, at what price would you pick NYU over Cornell?

http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/nyu/cornell/

I'm not convinced that NYU is worth much more than Cornell. Their biglaw placement is virtually the same. Since you want the south, Duke, UVA, or Vandy would make more sense, honestly. But between the two, Cornell makes much more sense.

For big law: I would probably pay $50K more for NYU over Cornell. At $70K where you are as I said it would start to turn back towards Cornell for me. Especially since $150K is a nice debt ceiling to have. For public interest work, NYU is worth the extra cash.

See, the problem with LST as a sole basis here is that not all large firm work is created equal.. New York University has a substantially higher concentration of their grads headed to the objectively "best" firms (better exit ops, most important clients, most resources) than Cornell. Also, person X at Y% in the class at NYU will have a better shot than person Z at the same Y% at Cornell at a given firm. So even if private practice is your goal, NYU is worth more IMO (and by similar logic, CLS is worth even more, and Harvard even a little more, and Yale even a little more then that, even though all five schools have LST placement %'s within 10% of each other).

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runinthefront wrote:

arklaw13 wrote:

runinthefront wrote:

jbagelboy wrote:Cornell is pretty regional - I wouldn't bank on getting to an ATL big law firm from there. You'd probably have to work in NY for a while and then lateral. There are some southern firms with NY offices that probably go to Cornell's OCI.

I would go to Cornell at these prices, but I'm not convinced either choice is all that great for your geographic goals.

If you were financing solely through loans, at what price would you pick NYU over Cornell?

http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/nyu/cornell/

I'm not convinced that NYU is worth much more than Cornell. Their biglaw placement is virtually the same. Since you want the south, Duke, UVA, or Vandy would make more sense, honestly. But between the two, Cornell makes much more sense.

Would Vandy at $165,926 make more sense?? I'm not opposed to Vandy by any means (absolutely loved the ASW), but I couldn't rationalize paying more money for an almost 20% decrease in what I'd call a "favorable employment outcome." Still holding out for UVA/Duke, but I don't think I would go to either for over 170K. I just can't really justify going to Vandy and spending more money than I would at Cornell

Vandy's a great school, but that's way too much to pay for a ~40% chance at biglaw.

runinthefront wrote:
Would Vandy at $165,926 make more sense?? I'm not opposed to Vandy by any means (absolutely loved the ASW), but I couldn't rationalize paying more money for an almost 20% decrease in what I'd call a "favorable employment outcome." Still holding out for UVA/Duke, but I don't think I would go to either for over 170K. I just can't really justify going to Vandy and spending more money than I would at Cornell

I'm a Vandy 1L and I would say that's probably too much. I would hold out and see if you can get any more money out of them, but it isn't likely to happen since no one has reported successful negotiation this cycle.