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UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:49 am
by w7ldcard
I am stuck between ASU and UF. ASU has given me 50k more money with easy stips which I am trying to get UF to match. I like Florida more but Arizona is closer to home (California)

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:50 am
by daryldixon
w7ldcard wrote:I am stuck between ASU and UF. ASU has given me 50k more money with easy stips which I am trying to get UF to match. I like Florida more but Arizona is closer to home (California)
Neither are a good investment unless you get a full ride + stipend. Retake.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:52 am
by w7ldcard
daryldixon wrote:
w7ldcard wrote:I am stuck between ASU and UF. ASU has given me 50k more money with easy stips which I am trying to get UF to match. I like Florida more but Arizona is closer to home (California)
Neither are a good investment unless you get a full ride + stipend. Retake.
Lol unless your parents pay for the rest. I'm not retaking and I'm going to one of the two.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:53 am
by daryldixon
w7ldcard wrote:
daryldixon wrote:
w7ldcard wrote:I am stuck between ASU and UF. ASU has given me 50k more money with easy stips which I am trying to get UF to match. I like Florida more but Arizona is closer to home (California)
Neither are a good investment unless you get a full ride + stipend. Retake.
Lol unless your parents pay for the rest. I'm not retaking and I'm going to one of the two.
Okay then why are you asking? It doesn't really matter that much to you.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:55 am
by w7ldcard
daryldixon wrote:
w7ldcard wrote:
daryldixon wrote:
w7ldcard wrote:I am stuck between ASU and UF. ASU has given me 50k more money with easy stips which I am trying to get UF to match. I like Florida more but Arizona is closer to home (California)
Neither are a good investment unless you get a full ride + stipend. Retake.
Lol unless your parents pay for the rest. I'm not retaking and I'm going to one of the two.
Okay then why are you asking? It doesn't really matter that much to you.
It matters I am justifying my reasoning for not retaking

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:46 am
by ManoftheHour
Where do you want to work?

If Arizona, ASU.

If Florida, UF.

If CA or anywhere else, RETAKE. Deck is heavily stacked against you if you are trying to get back home to work.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:54 am
by BigZuck
Being from CA and going to either doesn't really make any sense. Especially not if your plan is to come back to CA.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:07 am
by nebula666
BigZuck wrote:Being from CA and going to either doesn't really make any sense. Especially not if your plan is to come back to CA.
There are actually a pretty decent amount of people from CA at UF but I wouldn't recommend it.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:38 am
by Nucky
ManoftheHour wrote:Where do you want to work?

If Arizona, ASU.

If Florida, UF.

If CA or anywhere else, RETAKE. Deck is heavily stacked against you if you are trying to get back home to work.
Agree with LeBron.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:43 am
by raininthedesert
ASU gives you a much better shot at Southern California. There is a substantive alumni base there and your geographic proximity -- thanks to cheap Southwest Airlines flights -- will facilitate your ability to network, interview in person, and land summer work in the area.

Very strange that you are considering UF in this scenario. You should only be considering schools in the Southern California and Southwest Region.

If NorCal is your goal then you made an even worse decision in deciding to apply to , let alone attend, these schools.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:54 am
by TheSpanishMain
So you're asking TLS in order to justify not retaking, even though TLS says retake? Wtf?

Why are you even considering UF here? Do you have FL ties and want to work there?

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:24 pm
by w7ldcard
TheSpanishMain wrote:So you're asking TLS in order to justify not retaking, even though TLS says retake? Wtf?

Why are you even considering UF here? Do you have FL ties and want to work there?
No I'm not asking TLS about retaking. I'm trying to choose between the two school specifically between they are two markets a like but I like UF more but ASU gave me more money

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:34 pm
by BigZuck
w7ldcard wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:So you're asking TLS in order to justify not retaking, even though TLS says retake? Wtf?

Why are you even considering UF here? Do you have FL ties and want to work there?
No I'm not asking TLS about retaking. I'm trying to choose between the two school specifically between they are two markets a like but I like UF more but ASU gave me more money
You're not going to get TLS to justify either choice. There's not really any justification based on what (little) you have told us. Just do whatever you want.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:45 pm
by TheSpanishMain
w7ldcard wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:So you're asking TLS in order to justify not retaking, even though TLS says retake? Wtf?

Why are you even considering UF here? Do you have FL ties and want to work there?
I'm trying to choose between the two school specifically between they are two markets a like but I like UF more but ASU gave me more money
Are you a Cocker Spaniel using some kind of experimental bark-to-text program? I honestly can't figure this out.

Anyway, don't go to either unless you have a full ride, ties and want to work there. If you insist on going anyway, best of luck.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:51 pm
by cron1834
TheSpanishMain wrote:
w7ldcard wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:So you're asking TLS in order to justify not retaking, even though TLS says retake? Wtf?

Why are you even considering UF here? Do you have FL ties and want to work there?
I'm trying to choose between the two school specifically between they are two markets a like but I like UF more but ASU gave me more money
Are you a Cocker Spaniel using some kind of experimental bark-to-text program? I honestly can't figure this out.

Anyway, don't go to either unless you have a full ride, ties and want to work there. If you insist on going anyway, best of luck.
:lol:

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:52 pm
by ManoftheHour
cron1834 wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:
w7ldcard wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:So you're asking TLS in order to justify not retaking, even though TLS says retake? Wtf?

Why are you even considering UF here? Do you have FL ties and want to work there?
I'm trying to choose between the two school specifically between they are two markets a like but I like UF more but ASU gave me more money
Are you a Cocker Spaniel using some kind of experimental bark-to-text program? I honestly can't figure this out.

Anyway, don't go to either unless you have a full ride, ties and want to work there. If you insist on going anyway, best of luck.
:lol:

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:21 pm
by raininthedesert
Why do you like UF so much? It's in a less-than-desirable geographic location, is at a decided disadvantage in terms of valuable resume-building externships during the academic year, and there is nothing substantively unique that differentiates it from ASU -- other than a student body which is far more uptight (ASU is arguably too lax but there is a happy median which neither school achieves).

ASU at below in-state is the only option you provided that is justifiable -- full-ride not necessary if interested in staying put in Arizona but, if not, the lack of tuition debt would certainly mitigate the significant risk of attempting to relocate to California in a hyper-competitive job market during a continued downturn in legal employment.

Let me guess...you applied to ASU, UF, and Washington & Lee.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:33 pm
by TheSpanishMain
raininthedesert wrote: and Washington & Lee.
I just enjoy the fact that you once got on me for being too harsh on W&L, and then they dropped in the USNWR and every other post of yours is some variation of "W&L sux!"

That said, I agree that between the two, ASU, assuming "retake" and "don't go" are off the table.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:40 pm
by sublime
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Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:43 pm
by Nucky
raininthedesert wrote:Why do you like UF so much? It's in a less-than-desirable geographic location, is at a decided disadvantage in terms of valuable resume-building externships during the academic year, and there is nothing substantively unique that differentiates it from ASU -- other than a student body which is far more uptight (ASU is arguably too lax but there is a happy median which neither school achieves).

ASU at below in-state is the only option you provided that is justifiable -- full-ride not necessary if interested in staying put in Arizona but, if not, the lack of tuition debt would certainly mitigate the significant risk of attempting to relocate to California in a hyper-competitive job market during a continued downturn in legal employment.

Let me guess...you applied to ASU, UF, and Washington & Lee.
I'd rather live in Florida, a beautiful state with 5 large cities than a desert with one. Also , UF's employment stats are better so all that resume padding at ASU you claim exists there doesn't seem to be doing much. As for student body attitude, how would you know either way and frankly who gives a shit? Your points are all unsubstantiated nonsense.

Give the UF trolling a rest. Also, OP never said he wanted to work in CA to begin with.

EDIT: As mentioned above, OP should simply pick the school in the area he prefers to live and work. You're unlikely to leave the state from either.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:53 pm
by Nucky
sublime wrote:
raininthedesert wrote:Why do you like UF so much? It's in a less-than-desirable geographic location, is at a decided disadvantage in terms of valuable resume-building externships during the academic year, and there is nothing substantively unique that differentiates it from ASU -- other than a student body which is far more uptight (ASU is arguably too lax but there is a happy median which neither school achieves).

ASU at below in-state is the only option you provided that is justifiable -- full-ride not necessary if interested in staying put in Arizona but, if not, the lack of tuition debt would certainly mitigate the significant risk of attempting to relocate to California in a hyper-competitive job market during a continued downturn in legal employment.

Let me guess...you applied to ASU, UF, and Washington & Lee.

Bolded is the nicest thing anybody has ever said about Gainesville.
I like Gainesville a lot. One of the best college towns I've visited and I've been to quite a few. Of course, it isn't a big city, so if that's your thing you may not be happy there. But it's a really nice area and campus.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:02 pm
by sublime
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Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:12 pm
by Nucky
sublime wrote:
Nucky wrote:
raininthedesert wrote:Why do you like UF so much? It's in a less-than-desirable geographic location, is at a decided disadvantage in terms of valuable resume-building externships during the academic year, and there is nothing substantively unique that differentiates it from ASU -- other than a student body which is far more uptight (ASU is arguably too lax but there is a happy median which neither school achieves).

ASU at below in-state is the only option you provided that is justifiable -- full-ride not necessary if interested in staying put in Arizona but, if not, the lack of tuition debt would certainly mitigate the significant risk of attempting to relocate to California in a hyper-competitive job market during a continued downturn in legal employment.

Let me guess...you applied to ASU, UF, and Washington & Lee.
I'd rather live in Florida, a beautiful state with 5 large cities than a desert with one. Also , UF's employment stats are better so all that resume padding at ASU you claim exists there doesn't seem to be doing much. As for student body attitude, how would you know either way and frankly who gives a shit? Your points are all unsubstantiated nonsense.

Give the UF trolling a rest. Also, OP never said he wanted to work in CA to begin with.

EDIT: As mentioned above, OP should simply pick the school in the area he prefers to live and work. You're unlikely to leave the state from either.
:lol: at your description of Florida. Not that arizona is nice either. Reminds me of http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... da+arizona

And the job statistics between the two are just about a wash, and will probably come down to preferences. A 25% underemployment score is scary and although a small sample size, a whopping 64% of first time FL bar takers from UF passed the last administration.

And Gainesville is a shit hole and is not a nice college town.
Don't you live in St Louis? I hardly think you're in any position to talk about shitholes or college towns. It really is a nice town. If it's not for you that's fine, but to call it a shithole is absurd. It is Florida for Christ's sake. Even the bad neighborhoods are relatively nice.

Also, yeah UF has a higher UE score but they also have a larger class. They also have a higher employment rate and place more people into fed clerkships and Biglaw. The last bar administration was the Feb administration which is a very small and unrepresentative sample size. UF has a 90% bar passage rate. But I'm relatively sure you already knew that but are just another guy from FL with an axe to grind with UF.

That being said, I agree that they're similar enough that OP should simply pick the school he wants to work near. But come on, take the BS down a few notches.

Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:18 pm
by sublime
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Re: UF vs ASU

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:22 pm
by gaud
tldr

Don't go to ASU unless you want to practice in Arizona hth