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UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:33 pm
by FinalFour
First of all, I just want to say thank you to the TLS community. A couple of years ago I came extremely close to taking the LSAT unprepared and enrolling in a TTTT. I found this site and now I am very grateful to have these options.
So, I'm pretty sure I know TCR, but I would appreciate TLS' wisdom before I make a final decision. I've narrowed my options down to these choices.
1. U of Chicago (120k in debt at graduation or maybe a little under)
2. NYU (140k-150k in debt at graduation or maybe a little under)
3. UVA (30k in debt or maybe a little under)
I have yet to receive a final response from Stanford, Harvard, and Columbia.
How am I funding this: A combination of scholarship money, my own savings, family resources, and loans.
Where do I want to work: Southern California. My ties to Southern California are as strong as possible. I literally have no ties anywhere else.
Goals: If I do litigation, clerkship>>straight into big law in Southern California>>>
big law in new york>>anything else. If transactional, big law in Southern California>>>
big law in new york>>anything else. I really have no idea which one I would prefer over the other at this time.
Negotiating: I've already tried negotiating with U of Chicago and NYU. Both of them upped there offers by a small amount. Would it be worth it to try again? I was a little disheartened when they basically laughed at $$$ from UVA.
Just let me know if there is any other information that would be helpful in evaluating my options and I will be sure to post it. Thank you!
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:12 pm
by nebula666
UVA by a mile, though I don't know how well it places in CA. Do you have USC/UCLA for free?
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:39 pm
by FinalFour
nebula666 wrote:UVA by a mile, though I don't know how well it places in CA. Do you have USC/UCLA for free?
I got 120k at UCLA, so with instate tuition its about the same amount of debt as I would have at UVA. I feel like it would be crazy to turn down UVA for UCLA at equal cost. I didn't apply to USC (grew up a bruin fan). UVA's west coast placement is what is concerning me. UChi seems to place well out west, but the approximately 90k price difference seems way too steep. I appreciate your response!
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:33 pm
by WheninLaw
UoC has excellent west coast placement. Regardless, UVA by a mile.
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:58 pm
by LET'S GET IT
WheninLaw wrote:UoC has excellent west coast placement. Regardless, UVA by a mile.
I vote for Chicago, but why no boalt?
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:39 am
by Otunga
UVA without question. You'll probably do NYC biglaw. With that debt, you'll profit. How feasible is a lateral to Southern California?
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:01 pm
by jbagelboy
Virginia. That's a great fuckin price. Unless HSC come within $100k off WL (unlikely) I'd stick with UVA here.
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:22 pm
by First Offense
That's a great price for UVA. I know there's a lot of networking/support for people aiming for the West Coast, but I can't speak with any certainty with how well UVA places there. You may want to actually speak to admissions for some details about it - they should be pretty forthcoming - but look at whatever they give you with a critical eye. Maybe look to get in contact with some alumni in CA, or some 2Ls/3Ls to let you know how well it travels. That being said - with strong ties I have a feeling you won't have a problem.
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:31 pm
by WheninLaw
LET'S GET IT wrote:WheninLaw wrote:UoC has excellent west coast placement. Regardless, UVA by a mile.
I vote for Chicago, but why no boalt?
Because that's not one of OPs choices?
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:50 pm
by LET'S GET IT
WheninLaw wrote:LET'S GET IT wrote:WheninLaw wrote:UoC has excellent west coast placement. Regardless, UVA by a mile.
I vote for Chicago, but why no boalt?
Because that's not one of OPs choices?
Lol. Yes I can see that. Just seems like it would be a perfect fit for OP's goals.
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:18 pm
by FinalFour
LET'S GET IT wrote:WheninLaw wrote:LET'S GET IT wrote:WheninLaw wrote:UoC has excellent west coast placement. Regardless, UVA by a mile.
I vote for Chicago, but why no boalt?
Because that's not one of OPs choices?
Lol. Yes I can see that. Just seems like it would be a perfect fit for OP's goals.
Thank you to all who offered some advice. I am not considering Berkeley because they denied my matching scholarship app. Berkeley at sticker seemed absolutely absurd given I had money at better schools and obviously a very generous offer from UVA. I deposited at UVA, but I'm going to take one more shot at negotiating with Chicago. I'm not expecting much/anything though.
jbagelboy wrote:Virginia. That's a great fuckin price. Unless HSC come within $100k off WL (unlikely) I'd stick with UVA here.
Stanford is clearly ideal for my goals. However, it would be an absolute miracle if I got in considering I have been under review for 8 months with no news. I also don't have outstanding softs. Applicants with similar numbers to me had a lot of success with getting into Harvard off the wait list last year. I have no idea what amount of aid I would receive though and I highly doubt it would be anywhere close to 100k.
Re: UChi ($) vs. NYU ($) vs. UVA ($$$) for So Cal
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:33 pm
by LET'S GET IT
Ah. I think you can't go wrong with UChi or UVA. Congrats on being in a great position. Good luck!