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Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Post by underwear » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:52 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:You can actually do that now, we just don't advertise it. Add this to the end of the URL of the schools you want to compare: /2012/

So, http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/ ... oley/2012/

I originally intended for this to be an obvious feature, but something was getting in the way with how I programmed part of the page I think. I'll revisit it. Maybe I'm making that up? Regardless, the database query can handle it just fine.

If you want to compare schools across years, check out the job trends tab on the school report for jobs data and the key stats page for enrollment trends.
Did you just do a ninja edit? I just seen'ed a "Class of 20XX" option on the right-side of the screen that I don't think was there before. Other than the fact that that toolbar shifts the far-right column down a couple picas and makes it look a wee bit awkward, looks great!

edit: yup, looks like you did. thanks for all your hard work!

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Post by 09042014 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:06 am

Why wouldn't you subtract school paid jobs from the employment score?

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Post by The Dark Shepard » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:45 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Why wouldn't you subtract school paid jobs from the employment score?
I believe the idea is that public sector employees are less likely to pay for a just-graduated law student, but given the opportunity, someone with a post-grad fellowship can prove themselves, get experience, get their foot in the door, etc

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Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Post by underwear » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:56 pm

This doesn't really relate to C/O 2013, but I noticed a discrepancy in state placement figures.

According to LST, the percentage of University of Florida's C/O 2012 that worked in FL is 66.1%:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... tion/2012/

However, UF's data (page 8 ) claims that 87.3% of C/O 2012 were working in FL:
http://www.law.ufl.edu/_pdf/career/empl ... dacted.pdf

What am I not seeing?

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Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Post by Tiago Splitter » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:01 pm

underwear wrote:This doesn't really relate to C/O 2013, but I noticed a discrepancy in state placement figures.

According to LST, the percentage of University of Florida's C/O 2012 that worked in FL is 66.1%:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... tion/2012/

However, UF's data (page 8 ) claims that 87.3% of C/O 2012 were working in FL:
http://www.law.ufl.edu/_pdf/career/empl ... dacted.pdf

What am I not seeing?
The school isn't counting unemployed people. 87% of those with jobs were in Florida.

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Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Post by dd235 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:02 pm

underwear wrote:This doesn't really relate to C/O 2013, but I noticed a discrepancy in state placement figures.

According to LST, the percentage of University of Florida's C/O 2012 that worked in FL is 66.1%:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... tion/2012/

However, UF's data (page 8 ) claims that 87.3% of C/O 2012 were working in FL:
http://www.law.ufl.edu/_pdf/career/empl ... dacted.pdf

What am I not seeing?
I think LST’s number represents the percent of all graduates working in FL, whereas UF’s data is the percent of all employed graduates working in FL.

Edit: Tiago beat me to it (btw, had no idea Tiago Splitter was a real person until I was watching sports center the other day and they mentioned him... almost fell off my couch laughing)
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Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Post by 09042014 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:06 pm

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Desert Fox wrote:Why wouldn't you subtract school paid jobs from the employment score?
I believe the idea is that public sector employees are less likely to pay for a just-graduated law student, but given the opportunity, someone with a post-grad fellowship can prove themselves, get experience, get their foot in the door, etc
Pretty damn speculative. Espeically when they aren't counting non bar needed jobs.

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Post by Robb » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:27 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
The Dark Shepard wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Why wouldn't you subtract school paid jobs from the employment score?
I believe the idea is that public sector employees are less likely to pay for a just-graduated law student, but given the opportunity, someone with a post-grad fellowship can prove themselves, get experience, get their foot in the door, etc
Pretty damn speculative. Espeically when they aren't counting non bar needed jobs.
They are, you just have to go to the source.

Here are the school funded rates of schools, with the percent of school funded jobs that are Full Time, Long Term, Bar Passage required positions in parentheses, ordered from highest percentage of non-FTLTBPR jobs to lowest. T14 schools are in bold & larger, and schools without any school funded jobs are excluded.

UC Davis and Michigan State are probably the most concerning, as two of the schools among those with the highest school funded rates, but barely any LTFT BPR jobs.

ALABAMA, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 0 )
APPALACHIAN SCHOOL OF LAW 1 ( 0 )
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY 9 ( 0 )
ATLANTA'S JOHN MARSHALL LAW SHOOL 3 ( 0 )
Ave Maria School of Law 1 ( 0 )
BALTIMORE, UNIVERSITY OF 2 ( 0 )
BARRY UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
BOSTON COLLEGE 5 ( 0 )
BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY 5 ( 0 )
BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL 7 ( 0 )
CALIFORNIA WESTERN SCHOOL OF LAW 0 ( 0 )
CARDOZO SCHOOL OF LAW 4 ( 0 )
CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY 8 ( 0 )
CHARLESTON SCHOOL OF LAW 0 ( 0 )
CHICAGO-KENT COLLEGE OF LAW-IIT 0 ( 0 )
CINCINNATI, UNIVERSITY OF 4 ( 0 )
CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK 11 ( 0 )
DREXEL UNIVERSITY 5 ( 0 )
ELON UNIVERSITY 2 ( 0 )
FAULKNER UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
FLORIDA COASTAL SCHOOL OF LAW 8 ( 0 )
FLORIDA, UNIVERSITY OF 3 ( 0 )
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY 12 ( 0 )
GEORGIA STATE UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
GEORGIA, UNIVERSITY OF 0 ( 0 )
HOFSTRA UNIVERSITY 4 ( 0 )
IDAHO, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 0 )
JOHN MARSHALL LAW SCHOOL 1 ( 0 )
KANSAS, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 0 )
KENTUCKY, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 0 )
LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY 0 ( 0 )
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY-CHICAGO 2 ( 0 )
LOYOLA UNIVERSITY-NEW ORLEANS 0 ( 0 )
MERCER UNIVERSITY 2 ( 0 )
MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 15 ( 0 )
MISSOURI, UNIVERSITY OF 2 ( 0 )
NEW MEXICO, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 0 )
NEW YORK LAW SCHOOL 2 ( 0 )
NORTH DAKOTA, UNIVERSITY OF 3 ( 0 )
NORTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY 2 ( 0 )
NOVA SOUTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY 0 ( 0 )
OREGON, UNIVERSITY OF 6 ( 0 )
PENNSYLVANIA STATE UNIVERSITY 3 ( 0 )
PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY 5 ( 0 )
QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
REGENT UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
ROGER WILLIAMS UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY 2 ( 0 )
SAN DIEGO, UNIVERSITY OF 5 ( 0 )
SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY 4 ( 0 )
SOUTH DAKOTA, UNIVERSITY OF 4 ( 0 )
SOUTH TEXAS COLLEGE OF LAW 0 ( 0 )
ST. JOHN'S UNIVERSITY 5 ( 0 )
ST. THOMAS UNIVERSITY (FLORIDA) 1 ( 0 )
STETSON UNIVERSITY 8 ( 0 )
SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY 0 ( 0 )
Thomas M. Cooley Law School 0 ( 0 )
TOLEDO, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 0 )
TULANE UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE 1 ( 0 )
UNIVERSITY OF Nevada - Las Vegas 2 ( 0 )
VERMONT LAW SCHOOL 1 ( 0 )
VILLANOVA UNIVERSITY 0 ( 0 )
WAKE FOREST UNIVERSITY 7 ( 0 )
WASHINGTON AND LEE UNIVERSITY 11 ( 0 )
WAYNE STATE UNIVERSITY 2 ( 0 )
WEST VIRGINIA UNIVERSITY 2 ( 0 )
WESTERN NEW ENGLAND UNIVERSITY 1 ( 0 )
WILLAMETTE UNIVERSITY 5 ( 0 )
CALIFORNIA-HASTINGS, UNIVERSITY OF 12 ( 4 )
DENVER, UNIVERSITY OF 9 ( 4 )
NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY 12 ( 4 )
TEMPLE UNIVERSITY 8 ( 4 )
GOLDEN GATE UNIVERSITY 8 ( 6 )
LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY-LOS ANGELES 12 ( 7 )
INDIANA UNIVERSITY - BLOOMINGTON 4 ( 10 )
ARIZONA SUMMIT LAW SCHOOL 9 ( 12 )
GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY 12 ( 13 )
OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY 8 ( 17 )
WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY 8 ( 17 )
CHARLOTTE SCHOOL OF LAW 13 ( 18 )
DUKE UNIVERSITY 5 ( 18 )
MIAMI, UNIVERSITY OF 5 ( 19 )
MCGEORGE SCHOOL OF LAW 2 ( 20 )
WISCONSIN, UNIVERSITY OF 2 ( 20 )
MICHIGAN, UNIVERSITY OF 4 ( 21 )
MINNESOTA, UNIVERSITY OF 9 ( 21 )
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY 2 ( 25 )
INDIANA UNIVERSITY - INDIANAPOLIS 2 ( 25 )
COLORADO, UNIVERSITY OF 10 ( 28 )
CALIFORNIA-DAVIS, UNIVERSITY OF 15 ( 33 )
DEPAUL UNIVERSITY 1 ( 33 )
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 4 ( 33 )
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY 3 ( 33 )
VALPARAISO UNIVERSITY 2 ( 33 )
PACE UNIVERSITY 6 ( 35 )
BOSTON UNIVERSITY 15 ( 41 )
NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY 4 ( 42 )
FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY 1 ( 50 )
HARVARD UNIVERSITY 4 ( 50 )
HAWAII, UNIVERSITY OF 4 ( 50 )
PITTSBURGH, UNIVERSITY OF 2 ( 50 )
ST. MARY'S UNIVERSITY 1 ( 50 )
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, UNIVERSITY OF 7 ( 59 )
NORTH CAROLINA, UNIVERSITY OF 2 ( 60 )
YALE UNIVERSITY 7 ( 60 )
AMERICAN UNIVERSITY 12 ( 62 )
MARYLAND, UNIVERSITY OF 7 ( 63 )
ALBANY LAW SCHOOL OF UNION UNIVERSITY 2 ( 67 )
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY 2 ( 67 )
NEW ENGLAND LAW | BOSTON 1 ( 67 )
CALIFORNIA-LOS ANGELES, UNIVERSITY OF 14 ( 69 )
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY-NEWARK 3 ( 71 )
CHICAGO, UNIVERSITY OF 7 ( 81 )
ILLINOIS, UNIVERSITY OF 10 ( 83 )
CALIFORNIA-BERKELEY, UNIVERSITY OF 10 ( 86 )
GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY 13 ( 88 )
LEWIS AND CLARK COLLEGE 7 ( 88 )
WILLIAM AND MARY LAW SCHOOL 22 ( 90 )
TEXAS AT AUSTIN, UNIVERSITY OF 3 ( 92 )
EMORY UNIVERSITY 23 ( 96 )
VIRGINIA, UNIVERSITY OF 16 ( 98 )
GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY 15 ( 99 )
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY 7 ( 100 )
CORNELL UNIVERSITY 8 ( 100 )

HOUSTON, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 100 )
HOWARD UNIVERSITY 1 ( 100 )
IOWA, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 100 )
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY 8 ( 100 )
NOTRE DAME, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 100 )
PENNSYLVANIA, UNIVERSITY OF 5 ( 100 )
RUTGERS UNIVERSITY-CAMDEN 0 ( 100 )
SAN FRANCISCO, UNIVERSITY OF 1 ( 100 )
SEATTLE UNIVERSITY 1 ( 100 )
SOUTH CAROLINA, UNIVERSITY OF 0 ( 100 )
STANFORD UNIVERSITY 3 ( 100 )
TULSA, UNIVERSITY OF 2 ( 100 )
UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS DARTMOUTH 3 ( 100 )
VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY 8 ( 100 )

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Post by jenesaislaw » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:54 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Why wouldn't you subtract school paid jobs from the employment score?
Haven't we had this conversation at least one time? Maybe more?

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Post by 09042014 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:06 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Why wouldn't you subtract school paid jobs from the employment score?
Haven't we had this conversation at least one time? Maybe more?
I hope not, I don't remember it.

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Post by bugsy33 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:43 pm

Kyle, would it be possible to add a "combined score" that averages the last three years of a school's employment score?

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Post by jenesaislaw » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:59 pm

bugsy33 wrote:Kyle, would it be possible to add a "combined score" that averages the last three years of a school's employment score?
I've thought about this. I'm not convinced it would provide a meaningful metric. Floor is open for debate, though. I could add it to the job trends page very quickly if I can be convinced it's worth giving LST's credence too.

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Post by The Dark Shepard » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:06 pm

I don't think for 3 years it's a good sample size but a couple years down the line? Averaging 5 or so years would help weed out an outlier year. Otherwise 0Ls will go "BUT MY YEAR WILL BE LIKE THAT ONE" or if the most recent year was terrible or fantastic while the ones previous were not, might sway things too much. Just a thought though

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Post by bugsy33 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:32 am

While 3 years is a small sample size, I do think it provides a better metric than just the previous year's LST score. Eventually it would probably be smart to move to a 5 year average. It would just be another nice way to compare schools.

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Post by jenesaislaw » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:48 pm

One of the problems I see is that school class sizes are taking some wild swings right now. If they were more consistent I could see it.

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Post by cahwc12 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:31 am

jenesaislaw,

Is there a discrepancy on the website with regard to Fordham's employment numbers?

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... jobs/2013/

Here it says that 12.5% were in school-funded jobs, but on the key stats page it doesn't have an asterisk.

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Post by jenesaislaw » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:31 am

None of the school-funded jobs are long-term, full-time bar passage required positions:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... /ABA/2013/

That's the only thing that will trigger an asterisk on the Employment Score, because the short-term and part-time and non-bar required jobs have already been excluded.

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Post by cahwc12 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:23 pm

okay thanks, looks like I just misread it!

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Post by Big Dog » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:45 pm

Haven't we had this conversation at least one time? Maybe more?
Yes we have, but I find the arguments for inclusion unpersuasive. Yes, school-funded is better than no-funded, but to me it is still a "bad" outcome at commencement time, and even nine months hence.

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Post by lawschool22 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:58 pm

Big Dog wrote:
Haven't we had this conversation at least one time? Maybe more?
Yes we have, but I find the arguments for inclusion unpersuasive. Yes, school-funded is better than no-funded, but to me it is still a "bad" outcome at commencement time, and even nine months hence.
Count me in favor of leaving it out, and then using the asterisk on the under-employment number. The school-funded rate creates misleading figures like UVA having a 95.6% employment score and 2.5% under-employment score. Another (perhaps worse) example is Emory having a 83.6% employment and 5.5% under-employment score.

Yes, the discerning reader can see this is coming partially from school funded jobs, but A) I would hazard a guess that your average LST viewer does not look at this, and B) if they do they don't necessarily understand the implications.

To me it is more true to the LST mission/mantra to leave that number out, since we can't verify how "good" an outcome it is. If an individual use would like to consider it, they can. But for the majority of LST users this is probably considered a bad outcome, and as such should not be reflected in the initial glance at a school's numbers.

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Post by jbagelboy » Thu May 01, 2014 8:39 pm

lawschool22 wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
Haven't we had this conversation at least one time? Maybe more?
Yes we have, but I find the arguments for inclusion unpersuasive. Yes, school-funded is better than no-funded, but to me it is still a "bad" outcome at commencement time, and even nine months hence.
Count me in favor of leaving it out, and then using the asterisk on the under-employment number. The school-funded rate creates misleading figures like UVA having a 95.6% employment score and 2.5% under-employment score. Another (perhaps worse) example is Emory having a 83.6% employment and 5.5% under-employment score.

Yes, the discerning reader can see this is coming partially from school funded jobs, but A) I would hazard a guess that your average LST viewer does not look at this, and B) if they do they don't necessarily understand the implications.

To me it is more true to the LST mission/mantra to leave that number out, since we can't verify how "good" an outcome it is. If an individual use would like to consider it, they can. But for the majority of LST users this is probably considered a bad outcome, and as such should not be reflected in the initial glance at a school's numbers.
yea, but LST already removes the part time or non-jd-required positions from the employment score, right? So really, the bottom barrel school funded positions have already been kicked to the curb. Schools can't have their grads take calls in the admissions office 20 hours a week and count it in the employment score (which I think was one of GW's fav tactics pre-transparency).

It wouldn't be fair to several of the T14's to completely remove the FT/JD school funded jobs, because some schools have rather competitive "school funded" public interest initiatives that actually go to students with decent grades who would have no problem at OCI if they weren't averse to private practice. One key area is in international human rights work, where schools team up with the unicorn-y type NGO's and named PI fellowships and you never really know what bin they end up sorted in over at ABA.

Moreover, people kind of ignore employment score in favor of fed clerks+large firm, and even then, it seems like on TLS, people don't even follow that metric to the letter because they always make excuses for YH ect. ect.

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Post by lawschool22 » Thu May 01, 2014 8:46 pm

Perhaps, but TLS is a small subset and isn't the population most at risk of making a bad decision. Believe me, I'm not against school funded positions. But due to the inability to parse quality from crap, and due to their clear short-term nature, I would be more comfortable not including them by default. But that's just me personally.

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Post by jenesaislaw » Thu May 01, 2014 11:05 pm

lawschool22 wrote:Perhaps, but TLS is a small subset and isn't the population most at risk of making a bad decision. Believe me, I'm not against school funded positions. But due to the inability to parse quality from crap, and due to their clear short-term nature, I would be more comfortable not including them by default. But that's just me personally.
And at those schools, they don't have (LT, FT BPR) school-funded jobs. It's only the rich schools at the top of the prestige hierarchy.
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Re: Class of 2013 Employment Stats (updated LST Score Reports)

Post by Ded Precedent » Thu May 01, 2014 11:21 pm

Here's the T30 according to LST

1. University of Virginia 95.6%*
2. Columbia University 95%*
3. New York University 93.7%*
4. University of Chicago 92.1%*
5. University of Pennsylvania 90.7%*
6. Cornell University 88.6%*
7. Stanford University 87.6%*
8. Harvard University 86.9%*
9. University of California - Berkeley 86.7%*
10. Duke University 85.9%*
11. Vanderbilt University 85.9%*
12. Georgetown University 83.7%*
13. Emory University 83.6%*
14. University of Michigan 82%*
15. Northwestern University 79.2%*
16. Yale University 78.8%*
17. George Washington University 77.4%*
18. University of Texas 77.2%*
19. University of Iowa 76.3%*
20. UCLA 75.6%*
21. William and Mary 75.6%*
22. University of New Mexico 72.8%
23. University of Illinois 72.3%*
24. University of Notre Dame 71.2%*
25. University of Kentucky 70.7%
26. Southern Illinois University 70.5%
27. University of Alabama 70.5%
28. University of California - Davis 69.9%*
29. Southern Methodist University 69.6%
30. University of Colorado 69.3%*

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