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NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:49 pm
by Samsing
I am considering NU and UChicago. I received 150k in aid from NU and 15k(total) from Chicago.
Total COA:
NU = $100,000
UChicago = $275,000

I'll be taking out loans to finance my education. My goal is big law in any major market (NYC,Chicago, LA, etc). I have ties in Texas and hope to return sometime down the road but not sure. I was initially set on UChicago and that is where I would really love to attend. I wasn't expecting this much from NU and it really changes things. I think NU would be the smart choice and I just want to confirm it. I will try to negotiate with UChicago. How much would I have to get from UChicago to sway my decision the other way? Thanks!

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:53 pm
by star fox
135K isn't worth slightly better odds.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:58 pm
by ec24
I wouldnt even think twice about NU in this scenario.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:09 pm
by Otunga
Northwestern is reasonable at 100k for your stated goal of generic biglaw. Texas could be easier from Chicago simply because Chicago is a top 5 law school, but it's not like you can't lateral to Texas after biglaw in another market.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:33 pm
by WheninLaw
I go to Chicago and still voted NU without a second of thought.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:46 pm
by jbagelboy
Negotiate. If negotiation fails, Northwestern.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:47 pm
by jbagelboy
Negotiate. If negotiation fails, Northwestern.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:13 pm
by BigZuck
Negotiate. If negotiation fails, Northwestern.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:18 pm
by noobishned
Negotiate. If negotiation fails, Northwestern.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:23 pm
by 09042014
Just go to northwestern. The difference between the schools is minor. U of C won't watch NU. So just start planning to the move to the northside.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:18 am
by Samsing
Thanks for all the answers! Would there be any benefit that UChicago offers me that NU doesn't? Am I out of luck if I fall below median at NU?

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:30 am
by 09042014
Samsing wrote:Thanks for all the answers! Would there be any benefit that UChicago offers me that NU doesn't? Am I out of luck if I fall below median at NU?
No, but being above median doesn't guarantee you anything either. But the same goes for U of C.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:56 am
by WheninLaw
Samsing wrote:Thanks for all the answers! Would there be any benefit that UChicago offers me that NU doesn't? Am I out of luck if I fall below median at NU?
Sure, there are benefits. Better chance at elite firms, safer at UoC with below median grades than at NU. Better academia/clerkship numbers. But the differences are not significant, and I'd choose NU with a sizable scholarship difference. I took UoC over NU with $15K/year less of a scholarship, but it was a tough decision.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:21 am
by Tom Joad
$100,000 is too much to pay for NU. Retake and get a full ride.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:23 am
by shifty_eyed
Samsing wrote:Thanks for all the answers! Would there be any benefit that UChicago offers me that NU doesn't? Am I out of luck if I fall below median at NU?
I think you'd fit in better at Chicago. It has prestige that NU just doesn't have. That's such an intangible thing, but I think for you and your goals, it's worth it.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:42 am
by Samsing
Tom Joad wrote:$100,000 is too much to pay for NU. Retake and get a full ride.
How much do you think is reasonable? Everyone has been telling me it's reasonable for that cost. I overestimated a little.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:43 am
by PrideandGlory1776
noobishned wrote:Negotiate. If negotiation fails, Northwestern.
+1

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:44 am
by Samsing
shifty_eyed wrote:
Samsing wrote:Thanks for all the answers! Would there be any benefit that UChicago offers me that NU doesn't? Am I out of luck if I fall below median at NU?
I think you'd fit in better at Chicago. It has prestige that NU just doesn't have. That's such an intangible thing, but I think for you and your goals, it's worth it.
I'm considering the intangibles but I feel like the novelty might wear off but the money is very real. It is a huge difference. I might have been willing to pay $75,000 more but its almost twice that amount.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:45 am
by WheninLaw
Samsing wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:$100,000 is too much to pay for NU. Retake and get a full ride.
How much do you think is reasonable? Everyone has been telling me its reasonable for that cost. I overestimated a little.
I think $100K is reasonable. 65% for 100+ and federal clerkships. I think that is worth it.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:57 am
by kaiser
shifty_eyed wrote:
Samsing wrote:Thanks for all the answers! Would there be any benefit that UChicago offers me that NU doesn't? Am I out of luck if I fall below median at NU?
I think you'd fit in better at Chicago. It has prestige that NU just doesn't have. That's such an intangible thing, but I think for you and your goals, it's worth it.
Nearly 150K more for "intangibles"? You are actually serious?

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:02 pm
by Cobretti
WheninLaw wrote:
Samsing wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:$100,000 is too much to pay for NU. Retake and get a full ride.
How much do you think is reasonable? Everyone has been telling me its reasonable for that cost. I overestimated a little.
I think $100K is reasonable. 65% for 100+ and federal clerkships. I think that is worth it.
I don't think Tom understood that the 100K was total COA after the full ride that OP already received... That or he's trolling. Either way, ignore his BS.

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:27 pm
by northwood
UChi is not worth the extra $175,000 CoA. Are you really prepared to gamble $175,000 that you will get biglaw and be able to last until you can pay it all down? If that is the case, wouldn't you rather take that $175,000 that you did not have to pay back and invest it?


Enjoy NU

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:33 pm
by jbagelboy
Tom Joad wrote:$100,000 is too much to pay for NU. Retake and get a full ride.
Lol OP has a full ride. And NU law is worth more then that IMO

Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:49 pm
by norkanite
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Re: NU(150K) vs UChi(15k)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:55 pm
by abl
First, as someone who has graduated from law school with real debt and has seen how these things tend to work out, I think NW is easily worth 100k in total COA. If this was a glamour degree for you, sure, that might make it a closer question. But taking your interests and goals into account, it's not even close IMO.

Second, 100k in total debt is pretty manageable, and the difference between NU and Chicago for anything other than elite litigation boutiques or, perhaps, clerkships, is negligible. Given your goals, NW at that price is probably the better of the two choices. That said, if you feel like you're going to rock it at Chicago because it's the perfect fit, whereas you really dislike NW -- that could tip things back towards Chicago (although you've gotta have pretty darn strong feelings to overcome that $175k difference).