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Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:49 pm
by splittertothemax
I was looking at Villanova's three year JD/MBA program (I want to work on mergers and aquisitions.)
Is this program worth the cost? I know that the school had a scandal a few years ago.
Any advice would be great.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:54 pm
by deadpanic
If you want to do mergers & acquisitions, you need to go to a much better school. A JD/MBA is basically worthless unless it is from a better school.
I would say Villanova is not worth it unless you have a significant scholarship without strings attached. Check out their employment numbers on Law School Transparency.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:55 pm
by rinkrat19
You aren't going to find many people on TLS who think any non-T14 school is worth anything near full price. (And a fair number who don't even think all T14s are.)
Villanova gives you maybe a 40% chance (being very generous) at finding a decent-paying lawyering job with a proper firm/organization/agency. To make those odds worthwhile, you'd need a massive scholarship.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:19 pm
by timbs4339
What does this even mean? Do you want to work as an M+A lawyer? For a bank? Do you have finance work experience?
If you want to be a M+A lawyer then you need to work biglaw, meaning you need to go to a T13.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:21 pm
by splittertothemax
Yes I have two years as a financial analyst with a fortune 500 company (ecnomics degree).
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:25 pm
by timbs4339
splittertothemax wrote:Yes I have two years as a financial analyst with a fortune 500 company (ecnomics degree).
That's not particularly unique. If you went to an elite school, then you'd definitely get a WE bump when OCI rolls around, but it's not going to help you get one of those jobs out of Nova. LST shows 15% in large firms and fed clerkships.
Try to ED NW.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:03 pm
by californiauser
So you want big law. Retake for t14 if you want a comfortable shot at it.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:43 pm
by jbagelboy
For your goals, you want to go to a school with an M7 program (Harvard, Stanford, Penn, Chicago, Columbia, Northwestern).
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:58 pm
by Myself
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Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:10 pm
by jingosaur
Even at 3 year JD/MBA programs, you still have to pay for 4 years' worth of tuition. Just a JD or just an MBA from any top 14 law school or top 17 (I made this number up, come at me) business school will hold more weight than a Villanova JD/MBA which carries with it a COA of around $320,000.
Also, do you have 2 years of work experience now or 2 years of work experience at matriculation? Northwestern's JD/MBA program doesn't consider the LSAT (I'm not sure if this is your bottleneck for why you're not targeting a better school), but they normally require a lot more work experience (4 or more years at matriculation unless you have fantastic numbers and a big promotion or big leadership) for their MBA program.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:14 pm
by romothesavior
For your goals you need a much better school. Research job prospects, retake the LSAT, and reasses your goals.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:09 am
by JCougar
rinkrat19 wrote:Villanova gives you maybe a 40% chance (being very generous) at finding a decent-paying lawyering job with a proper firm/organization/agency.
You are being very generous.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:18 am
by hephaestus
ajax adonis wrote:No. Not worth it.
This.
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:20 am
by Clearly
No. What are your numbers?
Re: Villanova worth it?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:23 am
by hephaestus
Also a Villanova MBA is essentially worthless.