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Villanova worth it?

Post by splittertothemax » Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:49 pm

I was looking at Villanova's three year JD/MBA program (I want to work on mergers and aquisitions.)

Is this program worth the cost? I know that the school had a scandal a few years ago.

Any advice would be great.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by deadpanic » Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:54 pm

If you want to do mergers & acquisitions, you need to go to a much better school. A JD/MBA is basically worthless unless it is from a better school.

I would say Villanova is not worth it unless you have a significant scholarship without strings attached. Check out their employment numbers on Law School Transparency.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by rinkrat19 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:55 pm

You aren't going to find many people on TLS who think any non-T14 school is worth anything near full price. (And a fair number who don't even think all T14s are.)

Villanova gives you maybe a 40% chance (being very generous) at finding a decent-paying lawyering job with a proper firm/organization/agency. To make those odds worthwhile, you'd need a massive scholarship.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by timbs4339 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:19 pm

What does this even mean? Do you want to work as an M+A lawyer? For a bank? Do you have finance work experience?

If you want to be a M+A lawyer then you need to work biglaw, meaning you need to go to a T13.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by splittertothemax » Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:21 pm

Yes I have two years as a financial analyst with a fortune 500 company (ecnomics degree).

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by timbs4339 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:25 pm

splittertothemax wrote:Yes I have two years as a financial analyst with a fortune 500 company (ecnomics degree).
That's not particularly unique. If you went to an elite school, then you'd definitely get a WE bump when OCI rolls around, but it's not going to help you get one of those jobs out of Nova. LST shows 15% in large firms and fed clerkships.

Try to ED NW.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by californiauser » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:03 pm

So you want big law. Retake for t14 if you want a comfortable shot at it.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by jbagelboy » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:43 pm

For your goals, you want to go to a school with an M7 program (Harvard, Stanford, Penn, Chicago, Columbia, Northwestern).

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by jingosaur » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:10 pm

Even at 3 year JD/MBA programs, you still have to pay for 4 years' worth of tuition. Just a JD or just an MBA from any top 14 law school or top 17 (I made this number up, come at me) business school will hold more weight than a Villanova JD/MBA which carries with it a COA of around $320,000.

Also, do you have 2 years of work experience now or 2 years of work experience at matriculation? Northwestern's JD/MBA program doesn't consider the LSAT (I'm not sure if this is your bottleneck for why you're not targeting a better school), but they normally require a lot more work experience (4 or more years at matriculation unless you have fantastic numbers and a big promotion or big leadership) for their MBA program.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by romothesavior » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:14 pm

For your goals you need a much better school. Research job prospects, retake the LSAT, and reasses your goals.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by JCougar » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:09 am

rinkrat19 wrote:Villanova gives you maybe a 40% chance (being very generous) at finding a decent-paying lawyering job with a proper firm/organization/agency.
You are being very generous.

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by hephaestus » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:18 am

ajax adonis wrote:No. Not worth it.
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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by Clearly » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:20 am

No. What are your numbers?

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Re: Villanova worth it?

Post by hephaestus » Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:23 am

Also a Villanova MBA is essentially worthless.

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