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Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:32 pm
by Brysia
Having trouble deciding...

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:38 pm
by BigZuck
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=206299

You need to do all of this first. All of it.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:32 am
by North
TLS wrote:In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:

-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Google the Georgetown Law cost of attendance calculator for help with this.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:01 am
by El_Gallo
You are going to need biglaw where ever you go. So, unless being in the South is more important to you than paying off your debt, go with NW.

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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:14 pm
by Myself
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Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:48 pm
by sinfiery
ajax adonis wrote:I voted NU because that's the strongest for big law.
Depends more on NYC or Chicago preference imo.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:40 pm
by PRgradBYU
NU. It'll be your most expensive option, but as others have indicated, it's also your best shot at BigLaw.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:42 pm
by jbagelboy
You honestly haven't given enough information for me to provide an answer.

TCR is probably Vanderbilt for if you want to practice in the south, Northwestern if you want to practice in the midwest or CA, Cornell if you want to practice in NYC, and moreover, retake if your LSAT is lower than 170 and you haven't already retaken at least once.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:17 pm
by Peyton
In looking at LST, Cornell seems to easily be the best choice. Plus, it’s an Ivy.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:20 pm
by North
Peyton wrote:In looking at LST, Cornell seems to easily be the best choice. Plus, it’s an Ivy.
We don't even know where this guy wants to work or where he has ties.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:24 pm
by jbagelboy
Peyton wrote: Plus, it’s an Ivy.
just barely. and its entirely irrelevant

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:26 pm
by rad lulz
BigZuck wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=206299

You need to do all of this first. All of it.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:30 pm
by justonemoregame
None of the above - it's too much fucking money. And add your UG debt to COA, something that's rarely mentioned in these threads. The sticky needs to be updated to reflect this

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:49 pm
by meanmugger
Vanderbilt is obviously just a wannabe T14. Don't go there. Go to NU since its the best option you've got.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:21 pm
by North
meanmugger wrote:Vanderbilt is obviously just a wannabe T14. Don't go there. Go to NU since its the best option you've got.
Sigh.

No more uninformed opinions for OP until he provides the necessary information.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:13 pm
by PRgradBYU
jbagelboy wrote:
Peyton wrote: Plus, it’s an Ivy.
just barely. and its entirely irrelevant
Gotta love Cornell Ivy League trolling. I bet there are people who would attend Cooley if it were an Ivy.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:18 pm
by bizzybone1313
PRgradBYU wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
Peyton wrote: Plus, it’s an Ivy.
just barely. and its entirely irrelevant
Gotta love Cornell Ivy League trolling. I bet there are people who would attend Cooley if it were an Ivy.
Cornell places better than the non-Ivy Georgetown. It seems most Cornell grads stay in the northeast. Does anyone have good links to find out about their placement power in other parts of the country?

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:01 pm
by jselson
bizzybone1313 wrote:
PRgradBYU wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
Peyton wrote: Plus, it’s an Ivy.
just barely. and its entirely irrelevant
Gotta love Cornell Ivy League trolling. I bet there are people who would attend Cooley if it were an Ivy.
Cornell places better than the non-Ivy Georgetown. It seems most Cornell grads stay in the northeast. Does anyone have good links to find out about their placement power in other parts of the country?
http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/career ... istics.cfm

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:23 am
by ndirish2010
jbagelboy wrote:
Peyton wrote: Plus, it’s an Ivy.
just barely. and its entirely irrelevant
I'm confused, what does "just barely" in the Ivy League mean? Is there an asterisk next to their names in the sports standings? Princeton lax would love to know.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:36 am
by laotze
With absolutely zero information off of which to formulate advice, I'm going to say that for your mythical tabula rasa applicant NU is the best investment of the three.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:27 am
by rad lulz
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Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:09 pm
by jbagelboy
ndirish2010 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
Peyton wrote: Plus, it’s an Ivy.
just barely. and its entirely irrelevant
I'm confused, what does "just barely" in the Ivy League mean? Is there an asterisk next to their names in the sports standings? Princeton lax would love to know.
Meaning in name only. Obviously beyond the sports league, it's a blurred distinction anyway, but HYP don't even think of Cornell as being an Ivy school, socially/competitively (and Dartmouth is more commonly mistaken as an LAC). Here are a few other key historical/thematic distinctions that place Cornell squarely outside the "Ivy" collegiate brand:

1) only school in the league founded after the revolutionary war (1865)
2) only school in the league founded without a sectarian affiliation
3) only school in the league lacking a Latin moto
4) only school in the league ranking outside the Forbes top 50 colleges
5) only school in the league to be coeducational at its founding (cool and more progressive, but not in line with the didactic and 'elite' purpose of the seven others)
6) highest acceptance rate of the league by a wide margin (18% - it's easier to get into Cornell than WashU).
7) Andrew Bernard attended Cornell

I could list more but then it would just seem like I'm trolling on Cornell, which is not my intention. It's still a great university, one of the best in the world .. but it's "just barely" Ivy to those who attend other ivy institutions, which is an asinine distinction at best anyway

ETA: to clarify, this is intended to rebuke the pretense displayed above that would cause someone to choose Cornell over Northwestern, Duke, UVA, ect. on the wholly irrelevant grounds that "Cornell is in the Ivy League"

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:21 pm
by laotze
rad lulz wrote:
laotze wrote:With absolutely zero information off of which to formulate advice, I'm going to say that for your mythical tabula rasa applicant NU is the best investment of the three.
lol nice use of the latin there "dood"
Good thing I'll never have use of that particular dead language in the legal profession. I'd hate to think those years of high school torture were genuinely quoniam bonorum meorum.

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:26 pm
by jselson
How about everyone este effu?

Re: Cornell and NU at sticker or Vanderbilt with aid

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:57 am
by ndirish2010
jbagelboy wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
Peyton wrote: Plus, it’s an Ivy.
just barely. and its entirely irrelevant
I'm confused, what does "just barely" in the Ivy League mean? Is there an asterisk next to their names in the sports standings? Princeton lax would love to know.
Meaning in name only. Obviously beyond the sports league, it's a blurred distinction anyway, but HYP don't even think of Cornell as being an Ivy school, socially/competitively (and Dartmouth is more commonly mistaken as an LAC). Here are a few other key historical/thematic distinctions that place Cornell squarely outside the "Ivy" collegiate brand:

1) only school in the league founded after the revolutionary war (1865)
2) only school in the league founded without a sectarian affiliation
3) only school in the league lacking a Latin moto
4) only school in the league ranking outside the Forbes top 50 colleges
5) only school in the league to be coeducational at its founding (cool and more progressive, but not in line with the didactic and 'elite' purpose of the seven others)
6) highest acceptance rate of the league by a wide margin (18% - it's easier to get into Cornell than WashU).
7) Andrew Bernard attended Cornell

I could list more but then it would just seem like I'm trolling on Cornell, which is not my intention. It's still a great university, one of the best in the world .. but it's "just barely" Ivy to those who attend other ivy institutions, which is an asinine distinction at best anyway

ETA: to clarify, this is intended to rebuke the pretense displayed above that would cause someone to choose Cornell over Northwestern, Duke, UVA, ect. on the wholly irrelevant grounds that "Cornell is in the Ivy League"
Well considering the Ivy League is an athletic conference, I'm not sure how any of this is relevant. Carry on, though.