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Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:12 pm
by generaltoast
Any input would be greatly appreciated
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:14 pm
by californiauser
Post total COA and your employment goals.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:15 pm
by Eberry
In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:
-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a
helpful calculator
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:20 pm
by 20141023
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Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:23 pm
by guano
Regulus wrote:Considering it's these schools at these costs....

Brooklyn for free? If OP can keep living costs down, you've got to be mentally defective to call it a trap
Caveat: If OP loses the scholly, s/he should drop out
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:34 pm
by generaltoast
Sorry, should have given more info. Ill add another 25k/year for living in the city.
That would make total coa:
75k for brooklyn
180k for fordham
I would be paying almost entirely through loans.
I am from upstate ny, would like biglaw, numbers are 164/3.63 and ive taken the lsat once
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:36 pm
by stillwater
generaltoast wrote:Sorry, should have given more info. Ill add another 25k/year for living in the city.
That would make total coa:
75k for brooklyn
180k for fordham
I would be paying almost entirely through loans.
I am from upstate ny, would like biglaw, numbers are 164/3.63 and ive taken the lsat once
retake. you arent gonna get biglaw from Crooklyn
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:40 pm
by Monochromatic Oeuvre
Retake is the only right answer.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:56 pm
by Paul Campos
With interest Fordham is $215K and BLS is $87K.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:59 pm
by BigZuck
Regulus wrote:Considering it's these schools at these costs....

+1
Definitely retake if you want NYC big law. Few more points and Cornell and Duke would be in sight, few more than that and CCN on down opens up to you.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:13 pm
by buddyt
For NYC biglaw, you must retake. Cornell isn't too far away, and with a high enough LSAT your GPA doesn't preclude you from NYU or even Columbia.
Edit: scooped
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:57 pm
by generaltoast
Damnit, why must you people be so logical. Thanks for the advice guys
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:21 pm
by timbs4339
If you weren't so dead set on biglaw, different story, but the correct response is retake.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:34 pm
by BigZuck
buddyt wrote:For NYC biglaw, you must retake. Cornell isn't too far away, and with a high enough LSAT your GPA doesn't preclude you from NYU or even Columbia.
I said exactly this 14 minutes before you did. You have a moral obligation to +1 me or write "Scooped."
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:37 pm
by buddyt
BigZuck wrote:buddyt wrote:For NYC biglaw, you must retake. Cornell isn't too far away, and with a high enough LSAT your GPA doesn't preclude you from NYU or even Columbia.
I said exactly this 14 minutes before you did. You have a moral obligation to +1 me or write "Scooped."
Wow, legitimately didn't notice this

. Good to know that the TLS hivemind is alive and well and giving consistent and solid advice.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:22 pm
by Tekrul
Late to the party, for sure retake. Is the 164 your only take? What were you PT'ing, what did you do to study, what was your diagnostic?
Manage a ~7 point increase and come back next year and find this thread again and post on and on how you have $/$$ from T-14.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:16 am
by mr.hands
Just take Fordham off your list now. Under no circumstances is it worth 150-180k.
BigZuck wrote:Regulus wrote:Considering it's these schools at these costs....
+1
Definitely retake if you want NYC big law. Few more points and Cornell and Duke would be in sight, few more than that and CCN on down opens up to you.
OP, you need at least 3 more points on your LSAT for Cornell. You need at least 5 more for Duke.
Retake and then evaluate your options
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:25 am
by jvincent11
mr.hands wrote:
OP, you need at least 3 more points on your LSAT for Cornell. You need at least 5 more for Duke.
Retake and then evaluate your options
Very attainable goals with persistence and dedication
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:29 am
by generaltoast
Tekrul wrote:Late to the party, for sure retake. Is the 164 your only take? What were you PT'ing, what did you do to study, what was your diagnostic?
Manage a ~7 point increase and come back next year and find this thread again and post on and on how you have $/$$ from T-14.
It was my only take. I was PTing around 166 or 165. My diagnostic cold was 154. I studied strictly 40 or so practice tests and the logical reasoning bible
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:33 am
by sublime
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Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:46 am
by generaltoast
sublime wrote:generaltoast wrote:Tekrul wrote:Late to the party, for sure retake. Is the 164 your only take? What were you PT'ing, what did you do to study, what was your diagnostic?
Manage a ~7 point increase and come back next year and find this thread again and post on and on how you have $/$$ from T-14.
It was my only take. I was PTing around 166 or 165. My diagnostic cold was 154. I studied strictly 40 or so practice tests and the logical reasoning bible
No LG strategy? How did you do on those?
I believe I got 4 or 5 wrong
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:28 pm
by jingosaur
generaltoast wrote:sublime wrote:generaltoast wrote:Tekrul wrote:Late to the party, for sure retake. Is the 164 your only take? What were you PT'ing, what did you do to study, what was your diagnostic?
Manage a ~7 point increase and come back next year and find this thread again and post on and on how you have $/$$ from T-14.
It was my only take. I was PTing around 166 or 165. My diagnostic cold was 154. I studied strictly 40 or so practice tests and the logical reasoning bible
No LG strategy? How did you do on those?
I believe I got 4 or 5 wrong
LG is incredibly learnable. Get the LG bible and get that section to -1 or -0. There's your score to get into Cornell right there.
Re: Help! Brooklyn Law(50K/year) or Fordham(15k/year)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:36 pm
by generaltoast
Slightly off subject, but is the 15k/year for a person with my numbers (164/3.63) off the waitlist at all common for Fordham? Or is it a result of the dropping application rate? Was just curious because I have heard Fordham is notoriously stingy and I was not expecting to get any money.