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Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:19 pm
by jsmith201
Here's the story: I've recently been admitted to Duke off the WL. From what I've read on TLS there is no merit money and very little need. I outperformed my numbers for both schools (I'd rather not list them). Although I haven't heard from Duke, I was hoping to get at least some need-based aid. Cornell offered me 35K/year.

Ideally my SO would cover our COL, but we anticipate needing a little extra in loans to supplement his income.

I've already paid both deposits at Cornell and a deposit on an apartment ($900 and $1150 respectively).

Career Goals- I want to work BigLaw if possible but I am NOT set on NYC. I was planning on trying for NYC, DC and NC.

Thoughts? Is Duke worth more than double what I'd pay at Cornell? I am from upstate NY so the weather does not matter to me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:21 pm
by Lincoln
jsmith201 wrote:Here's the story: I've recently been admitted to Duke off the WL. From what I've read on TLS there is no merit money and very little need. I outperformed my numbers for both schools (I'd rather not list them). Although I haven't heard from Duke, I was hoping to get at least some need-based aid. Cornell offered me 35K/year.

Ideally my SO would cover our COL, but we anticipate needing a little extra in loans to supplement his income.

I've already paid both deposits at Cornell and a deposit on an apartment ($900 and $1150 respectively).

Career Goals- I want to work BigLaw if possible but I am NOT set on NYC. I was planning on trying for NYC, DC and NC.

Thoughts? Is Duke worth more than double what I'd pay at Cornell? I am from upstate NY so the weather does not matter to me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
No

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:22 pm
by BerkeleyBear
Lincoln wrote:
jsmith201 wrote:Here's the story: I've recently been admitted to Duke off the WL. From what I've read on TLS there is no merit money and very little need. I outperformed my numbers for both schools (I'd rather not list them). Although I haven't heard from Duke, I was hoping to get at least some need-based aid. Cornell offered me 35K/year.

Ideally my SO would cover our COL, but we anticipate needing a little extra in loans to supplement his income.

I've already paid both deposits at Cornell and a deposit on an apartment ($900 and $1150 respectively).

Career Goals- I want to work BigLaw if possible but I am NOT set on NYC. I was planning on trying for NYC, DC and NC.

Thoughts? Is Duke worth more than double what I'd pay at Cornell? I am from upstate NY so the weather does not matter to me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
No
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Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:32 pm
by jbagelboy
Cornell

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:32 pm
by Hutz_and_Goodman
This isn't even a question. I don't feel like searching for the jpeg of the money burning from Batman, but that is what Duke would be--pure lunacy. Cornell is the only option here .

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:45 pm
by Ti Malice
Paying ~$100K more for Duke than Cornell would be utter madness. These are peer schools. Anyone who votes for Duke here is an idiot.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:45 pm
by DorianGray89
Ask Duke about financial aid - I know more than one person who has gotten off the WL at Duke and has been given money.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:49 pm
by Hutz_and_Goodman
DorianGray89 wrote:Ask Duke about financial aid - I know more than one person who has gotten off the WL at Duke and has been given money.
They will probably give you something. But considering the cost of living difference, and the fact that they are peer schools, there is no way Duke makes sense. They may give you $20 or $30k, there is no way in hell they give you $100k.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:05 pm
by Winston1984
Who is the jackass that voted Duke?

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:57 pm
by DaRascal
I have yet to vote but I would personally pick Duke because over the course of your career if you're successful the difference in costs right now will look like chump change and Duke is better (DNCG not CNDG) overall. The big downside for me would be that heat (especially in the summer) to be honest because I'm from up north!!

Besides, from everything I've heard Duke is a really fun place to be and if you like college hoops you already know! They don't put a price on happiness my friend!! I would visit! :P

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:00 pm
by suralin
DaRascal wrote:I have yet to vote but I would personally pick Duke because over the course of your career if you're successful the difference in costs right now will look like chump change and Duke is better (DCNG not CNGD) overall. The big downside for me would be that heat (especially in the summer) to be honest because I'm from up north!!

Besides, from everything I've heard Duke is a really fun place to be and if you like college hoops you already know! They don't put a price on happiness my friend!! I would visit! :P
Meh troll. If this is for real though, it's so retarded it's funny--I like the smiley faces and exclamation marks.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:01 pm
by Micdiddy
DaRascal wrote:I have yet to vote but I would personally pick Duke because over the course of your career if you're successful the difference in costs right now will look like chump change and Duke is better (DCNG not CNGD) overall. The big downside for me would be that heat (especially in the summer) to be honest because I'm from up north!!

Besides, from everything I've heard Duke is a really fun place to be and if you like college hoops you already know! They don't put a price on happiness my friend!! I would visit! :P
Most of your trolling is tolerable, but this is pretty awful and liable to mislead op. Come on, you're better than that. Stick to off topic trolling or if you must non-harmful on topic trolling like Dr. Dre.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:03 pm
by DaRascal
Well I'm just saying what I would probably do. I dunno....

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:10 pm
by Ti Malice
DaRascal wrote:I have yet to vote but I would personally pick Duke
Of course you would. You're an idiot. No one here would expect anything different of you.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:15 pm
by lawyerwannabe
Love Duke. Could not imagine doing law school anywhere else. But you should choose Cornell and it is not really close (unless you are from a wealthy family and have an extreme aversion to hills and snow).

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:19 pm
by jbagelboy
Ti Malice wrote:
DaRascal wrote:I have yet to vote but I would personally pick Duke
Of course you would. You're an idiot. No one here would expect anything different of you.
Often the most substantive indicator to arise from a Choosing a Law School thread is when DaRascal makes a suggestion: you always know the exact opposite is TCR.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:34 pm
by BigZuck
Micdiddy wrote:
DaRascal wrote:I have yet to vote but I would personally pick Duke because over the course of your career if you're successful the difference in costs right now will look like chump change and Duke is better (DCNG not CNGD) overall. The big downside for me would be that heat (especially in the summer) to be honest because I'm from up north!!

Besides, from everything I've heard Duke is a really fun place to be and if you like college hoops you already know! They don't put a price on happiness my friend!! I would visit! :P
Most of your trolling is tolerable, but this is pretty awful and liable to mislead op. Come on, you're better than that. Stick to off topic trolling or if you must non-harmful on topic trolling like Dr. Dre.
This. Darascal, I am very disappointed in you. You're better than this. Troll better/funnier.

OP, Cornell is the obvious choice. Just FYI I was accepted to both schools outright (not waitlisted) and Cornell offered me 23K more and Duke matched. If you really prefer Duke perhaps you can negotiate with them, although I'm not sure how ameniable they are to doing this for waitlisted people.

Also, how the F did you get 35K per year if you over performed your numbers? Seriously, this secretive stuff is not cool, you need to share your story when your cycle is over to help future generations of applicants.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:24 pm
by Monochromatic Oeuvre
jbagelboy wrote:
Ti Malice wrote:
DaRascal wrote:I have yet to vote but I would personally pick Duke
Of course you would. You're an idiot. No one here would expect anything different of you.
Often the most substantive indicator to arise from a Choosing a Law School thread is when DaRascal makes a suggestion: you always know the exact opposite is TCR.
Perhaps DaRascal is the same person who runs the "successful troll" account on ATL?

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:30 pm
by rickgrimes69
DaRascal wrote:Well I'm just saying what I would probably do. I dunno....
You're a terrible, obvious, and unfunny troll, so what you would probably do is irrelevant.

OP, Cornell is the right choice here. Duke isn't $100k better.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:05 pm
by willwilliams1334
how is cornell's placement compared to duke's?

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:06 pm
by sinfiery
willwilliams1334 wrote:how is cornell's placement compared to duke's?
For biglaw + clerkship numbers at a glance, slightly better or slightly worse(depends on what year you look at. So random fluctuations in the data are the only difference) Cornell has a greater NYC focus for placement than Duke tho Duke is pretty NYC focused too. Very similar schools and at equal price, OP might choose Duke for possibly wanting to work in NC...but yeah, it isn't equal cost.

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:45 pm
by Lincoln
willwilliams1334 wrote:how is cornell's placement compared to duke's?
sinfiery is spot on. Duke's clerkships numbers are generally a bit better, but otherwise it's about the same. This is for the class of 2012:

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=cornell
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=duke

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:29 pm
by mr.hands
Lincoln wrote:
willwilliams1334 wrote:how is cornell's placement compared to duke's?
sinfiery is spot on. Duke's clerkships numbers are generally a bit better, but otherwise it's about the same. This is for the class of 2012:

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=cornell
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=duke
Yeah they're pretty similar. The key difference is *where* they are placing these biglaw jobs. Cornell is all-out-balls-to-the-wall NY focused. Duke places less in NY overall but has broader reach

EDIT: How are you calculating your COA for Duke? that seems pretty low

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:28 am
by willwilliams1334
Lincoln wrote:
willwilliams1334 wrote:how is cornell's placement compared to duke's?
sinfiery is spot on. Duke's clerkships numbers are generally a bit better, but otherwise it's about the same. This is for the class of 2012:

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=cornell
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=duke
cornell seems to place way above its rank for biglaw

Re: Cornell $$ vs. Duke (sticker)

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:46 am
by moonman157
Seriously, how is this a question?