UT vs. WUSTL $$$ Forum
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Texas and it's not even close.
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I wouldn't throw down $100k+ interest for UT
But I also wouldn't go to WUSTL unless you have some ties and want to practice in the Midwest
Retake
But I also wouldn't go to WUSTL unless you have some ties and want to practice in the Midwest
Retake
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Interesting. I think WUSTL is perfectly worth it at that COA. Very good deal in fact.
If your SO gets the job in St Louis, go to WUSTL. I don't think either option is unreasonable considering your goals are midwestern-focused
If your SO gets the job in St Louis, go to WUSTL. I don't think either option is unreasonable considering your goals are midwestern-focused
sounds like OP 1) has ties and 2) wants to practice in the midwestrad lulz wrote:I wouldn't throw down $100k+ interest for UT
But I also wouldn't go to WUSTL unless you have some ties and want to practice in the Midwest
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Re: UT vs. WUSTL $$$
I personally wouldn't attend UT for that much, but for the sake of answering your question, I believe it's worth the extra ~$58k. My vote is for UT.rabbitrun wrote:UT COA (I'm not paying for housing): 103,368 +interest
WUSTL COA: 45,000+interest.
I'm from Texas, have strong ties there (I'm going to be working for a Texas firm over the summer), would like to clerk (UT is better at this), and I'm vaguely interested in Biglaw (UT is better than this). I don't necessarily need to be in Texas after graduation, but I would be a lot happier if I was. My fiance needs to find a job as a Behavior Analyst as well. He has an interview for St. Louis today and he will probably get the job, but he thinks it will be easier to get a better job in his field in Austin.
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Is it me or was that Midwest stuff not there the first time I read that
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I know Romo mentioned in one of the threads that WUSTL kids with ties seem to be able to get back to Texas without much difficulty. According to LST 5% of the 2012 grads went to Texas. But obviously this isn't guaranteed and UT would probably be the safer bet if staying in Texas takes precedence.
100k with interest is a lot of money...but if you get Texas BigLaw then it shouldn't be too hard to pay it off...especially with two incomes. The COL in Texas is much cheaper so your buying power is going to be much higher than your typical NYC associate. Personally I'd choose UT here. Things like PAYE lower the stakes if you strike out.
100k with interest is a lot of money...but if you get Texas BigLaw then it shouldn't be too hard to pay it off...especially with two incomes. The COL in Texas is much cheaper so your buying power is going to be much higher than your typical NYC associate. Personally I'd choose UT here. Things like PAYE lower the stakes if you strike out.
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is Texas not midwest? >< (coastal ignorance here)rabbitrun wrote:I wouldn't say that my goals are midwest focused? I don't think we would want to stay in the midwest after graduation whereas I might want to stay in Texas after graduation.
I have taken the LSAT twice. 167. I don't want to wait a year because that would mean my fiance working for a year and then quitting and moving again. I'm guessing that I will get shit for saying that. I also don't have a good enough job right now to justify waiting a year.
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~115k for UT with Texas ties isn't nearly as bad as people ITT are making it out to be.
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Texas is its own countryjbagelboy wrote:is Texas not midwest? >< (coastal ignorance here)rabbitrun wrote:I wouldn't say that my goals are midwest focused? I don't think we would want to stay in the midwest after graduation whereas I might want to stay in Texas after graduation.
I have taken the LSAT twice. 167. I don't want to wait a year because that would mean my fiance working for a year and then quitting and moving again. I'm guessing that I will get shit for saying that. I also don't have a good enough job right now to justify waiting a year.
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Sorry! sorry! nice to see that lone star pride thorabbitrun wrote:I am offended.jbagelboy wrote:is Texas not midwest? >< (coastal ignorance here)rabbitrun wrote:I wouldn't say that my goals are midwest focused? I don't think we would want to stay in the midwest after graduation whereas I might want to stay in Texas after graduation.
I have taken the LSAT twice. 167. I don't want to wait a year because that would mean my fiance working for a year and then quitting and moving again. I'm guessing that I will get shit for saying that. I also don't have a good enough job right now to justify waiting a year.
for the purposes of law school discussion, WUSTL is a "midwestern" school that places into "midwestern" markets, which often includes texas. but oh well.
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+1WokeUpInACar wrote:~115k for UT with Texas ties isn't nearly as bad as people ITT are making it out to be.
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In that case you might as well call DC a "midwestern" market loljbagelboy wrote:Sorry! sorry! nice to see that lone star pride thorabbitrun wrote:I am offended.jbagelboy wrote:is Texas not midwest? >< (coastal ignorance here)rabbitrun wrote:I wouldn't say that my goals are midwest focused? I don't think we would want to stay in the midwest after graduation whereas I might want to stay in Texas after graduation.
I have taken the LSAT twice. 167. I don't want to wait a year because that would mean my fiance working for a year and then quitting and moving again. I'm guessing that I will get shit for saying that. I also don't have a good enough job right now to justify waiting a year.
for the purposes of law school discussion, WUSTL is a "midwestern" school that places into "midwestern" markets, which often includes texas. but oh well.
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Just dividing $103,368 by 3 and using the GULC calculator it's actually $125kWokeUpInACar wrote:~115k for UT with Texas ties isn't nearly as bad as people ITT are making it out to be.
As a 3L, in no way would I take out that same amount of $ for my UT peer school
(unless I had no retakes on the table and was a splitter or something)
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That's a steep price for UT but I think it's probably worth it, especially given your numbers. A retake would always help but who knows by how much. My numbers are better than yours and I didn't apply in part because I didn't think I'd get an offer that good from UT. I'd think long and hard about it, but I think $115k is on the cusp of an acceptable amount of risk for a school like UT, especially if you intend to work there.rabbitrun wrote:Splitter (even though the LSAT isn't fantastic). 3.2/167. I mean it is kind of a miracle that I got into UTrad lulz wrote:Just dividing $103,368 by 3 and using the GULC calculator it's actually $125kWokeUpInACar wrote:~115k for UT with Texas ties isn't nearly as bad as people ITT are making it out to be.
As a 3L, in no way would I take out that same amount of $ for my UT peer school
(unless I had no retakes on the table and was a splitter or something)
edit: I might also want to add that my parents only paid like 10k total for my UG, I have 0 debt and my fiance has 10k in student debt after a grad program, and I'm pretty sure my parents would help if it means me being in Texas.
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cusenation wrote:+1WokeUpInACar wrote:~115k for UT with Texas ties isn't nearly as bad as people ITT are making it out to be.
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I think that's a tolerable level of debt for UT. It's what I'm looking at, and I'm happy with my choice (though obviously this is with the benefit of hindsight and having accomplished what I set out to do). Ultimately this comes down to you and the personal factors in your life. How bad do you want TX? Can your SO get a job in Austin?
I don't think picking UT is unreasonable at all, but it is a risk. Good luck.
I don't think picking UT is unreasonable at all, but it is a risk. Good luck.
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I agree with this as well, but I don't think UT is worth 70k+ more than WUSTL, even for the Texas market.cusenation wrote:+1WokeUpInACar wrote:~115k for UT with Texas ties isn't nearly as bad as people ITT are making it out to be.
And just about everyone I know with strong Texas ties landed Texas from my class, FWIW. I vote for WUSTL here.
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I don't think either of these options is that bad, and if it were me I'd take WUSTL due to less debt. I know some people from my school and some from Oklahoma Law who got jobs in Texas, though only one in a decent sized law firm. It's a big state; spend your summers there and you will get something. I vote WUSTL.
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