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UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:43 pm
by calinyc
Hello, I wanted to receive opinions on where to attend in the fall.
In: Fordham (no money); Davis (token amount); Hastings ($60k)
Waitlisted: UCLA and USC
Stats: 159, 4.0
I currently live in NYC, but would like to work in the Bay Area after law school. I only want to do public interest law. Retaking the LSAT or delaying a year is not an option since I'm older and want to get this process moving. Debt is certainly a consideration factor, but not a big one since my husband and I have money saved from working (we likely will not have to take out loans the first 3 semesters).
Thanks for any input.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:45 pm
by jbagelboy
calinyc wrote:Hello, I wanted to receive opinions on where to attend in the fall.
In: Fordham (no money); Davis (token amount); Hastings ($60k)
Waitlisted: UCLA and USC
Stats: 159, 4.0
I currently live in NYC, but would like to work in the Bay Area after law school. I only want to do public interest law. Retaking the LSAT or delaying a year is not an option since I'm older and want to get this process moving. Debt is certainly a consideration factor, but not a big one since my husband and I have money saved from working (we likely will not have to take out loans the first 3 semesters).
Thanks for any input.
oh boy. this will end well.
retaking the LSAT is always an option. attending either of those three schools with a 4.0 should not be
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:50 pm
by hephaestus
You should definitely retake. It's worth waiting a year to save six figures of debt. Even if you're using savings to pay for it, you should retake and put the money towards something more worthwhile (eg a down payment on a house or something).
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:51 pm
by SFSpartan
jbagelboy wrote:calinyc wrote:Hello, I wanted to receive opinions on where to attend in the fall.
In: Fordham (no money); Davis (token amount); Hastings ($60k)
Waitlisted: UCLA and USC
Stats: 159, 4.0
I currently live in NYC, but would like to work in the Bay Area after law school. I only want to do public interest law. Retaking the LSAT or delaying a year is not an option since I'm older and want to get this process moving. Debt is certainly a consideration factor, but not a big one since my husband and I have money saved from working (we likely will not have to take out loans the first 3 semesters).
Thanks for any input.
oh boy. this will end well.
retaking the LSAT is always an option. attending either of those three schools with a 4.0 should not be
+1. STOP WASTING THAT WONDERFUL GPA!
Seriously though, I don't want to imagine what I'd do to trade my 3.6 for a 4.0. Bump dat LSAT to a 170 and you could be looking at SB, and CN You'd also have a good shot at Y and H, but I picked the previously mentioned schools because they are in SF Bay Area and NYC.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:59 pm
by DaRascal
Pray that you get off the UCLA waitlist. I really hope you do.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:59 pm
by jbagelboy
DaRascal wrote:Pray that you get off the UCLA waitlist. I really hope you do.
this wouldn't help as much with getting a legal position in SF as retaking for boalt
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:06 pm
by jbagelboy
OP, my previous post about retaking still holds. However, I'll bite on your school decision.
Don't go to Fordham. It's a weak biglaw feeder for NYC-specific firms; it won't get you to SF, and it won't help you get solid PI work.
Between Davis and UCH:
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=hastings
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=davis
Davis has a better PI score. So that's your best option between the two.
Clearly, these are all shit considering your UGPA. You could have gotten in to these doing coke before class, going out 5 nights a week and getting laid, barely pulling B-'s in your classes cause you were too busy lighting up and going for 2AM burritos... everything you probably missed out on gunning for that 4.0. When will you ever be paid off for all that hard work if not getting into a T10 law school with $$?
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:12 pm
by untar614
jbagelboy wrote:DaRascal wrote:Pray that you get off the UCLA waitlist. I really hope you do.
this wouldn't help as much with getting a legal position in SF as retaking for boalt
srsly. and boalt is (supposedly) really into GPAs, so it might not even take a huge jump in LSAT to get in. hitting 164 would put you above the lower quartile.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:55 pm
by North
You have a 4.0.
PLEASE retake the LSAT. You would be seriously wasting your potential if you went to any of these schools.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:12 pm
by K Rock
The LSAT is a very learn-able test. Retake and you will have a chance at Berkeley and possibly even Stanford. You may not want to delay, but one year really isn't very long in the grand scheme of things. If you attend one of these schools it will be the biggest mistake of your life.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:21 pm
by Micdiddy
Now that you found TLS. Retake the LSAT and prep with the TLS LSAT prep forum. Seriously, this community helps people every cycle get a better score, through motivation, information and strategy.
You have the ability with that gpa to go to YHS. If you don't think that's realistic, shoot for the moon and land among the stars. T14 is within reach, serious $$$ at UCLA, etc. retake that LSAT, give it the attention it deserves, and you will NOT regret it.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:26 pm
by rad lulz
Fordham won't get you to the Bay Area and Hastings and David are bad schools for getting jobs so you better retake
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:40 pm
by BigZuck
Yup, retake.
I can't fathom why someone who wants to do PI in the Bay Area and has a Stanford worthy GPA would be considering a school like Fordham just because they are older than average and scared of a learnable test.
It's not your GPAs fault that you waited to get the ball moving. Please don't dishonor it by going to one of these schools, especially not at these prices.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:41 pm
by twenty
rad lulz wrote:David
i heard they place well in ancient israel!
Also, OP you have the opportunity to waltz into Harvard with a score increase. WALTZING. I'm absolutely convinced that anyone can get a perfect score on the LG section given enough practice, and LR/RC is pretty friggin' learnable.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:47 pm
by jbagelboy
twentypercentmore wrote:rad lulz wrote:David
i heard they place well in ancient israel!
Also, OP you have the opportunity to waltz into Harvard with a score increase. WALTZING. I'm absolutely convinced that anyone can get a perfect score on the LG section given enough practice, and LR/RC is pretty friggin' learnable.
I agree about LG. RC is tougher to "learn" esp. for non-native speakers. but with a perfect LG & only one or two missed LR per section, you have to really fuck up RC to get below 165
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:50 pm
by BigZuck
jbagelboy wrote:twentypercentmore wrote:rad lulz wrote:David
i heard they place well in ancient israel!
Also, OP you have the opportunity to waltz into Harvard with a score increase. WALTZING. I'm absolutely convinced that anyone can get a perfect score on the LG section given enough practice, and LR/RC is pretty friggin' learnable.
I agree about LG. RC is tougher to "learn" esp. for non-native speakers. but with a perfect LG & only one or two missed LR per section, you have to really fuck up RC to get below 165
At least two people ITT have never heard of ZONES
But in all seriousness, fuck ZONES. Also fuck -10 curves every time you take the damn test.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:56 pm
by jbagelboy
BigZuck wrote:jbagelboy wrote:twentypercentmore wrote:rad lulz wrote:David
i heard they place well in ancient israel!
Also, OP you have the opportunity to waltz into Harvard with a score increase. WALTZING. I'm absolutely convinced that anyone can get a perfect score on the LG section given enough practice, and LR/RC is pretty friggin' learnable.
I agree about LG. RC is tougher to "learn" esp. for non-native speakers. but with a perfect LG & only one or two missed LR per section, you have to really fuck up RC to get below 165
At least two people ITT have never heard of ZONES
But in all seriousness, fuck ZONES. Also fuck -10 curves every time you take the damn test.
lol the zones were fine. what was fucked was the curve in the mid 170's in october. they pushed all the 175's down and eliminated the 175 score, so everyone from 170-174 should have been +1 point IMO.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:26 pm
by rickgrimes69
Not retaking would be a breathtakingly bad decision. You owe it to your awesome GPA to retake.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:07 pm
by jbagelboy
rickgrimes69 wrote:Not retaking would be a breathtakingly bad decision. You owe it to your awesome GPA to retake.
Ultimately, we dream of a time where the term "reverse splitter" is all but an obsolete term used only to refer to the idiocy of the past.
Will OP arise and embrace this brave new world, or shrink back and deny from the destiny of a critically weakened industry?
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:18 pm
by Gunnar Stahl
rickgrimes69 wrote:Not retaking would be a breathtakingly bad decision. You owe it to your awesome GPA to retake.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:18 am
by twenty
Yeah, "reverse splitter" should be a term from pre 2007 when your LSATs were averaged.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 3:38 am
by Dr. Dre
retake, score 170+, enjoy the T14 with $$, profit.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 3:47 am
by sublime
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Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 9:56 pm
by untar614
BigZuck wrote:jbagelboy wrote:twentypercentmore wrote:rad lulz wrote:David
i heard they place well in ancient israel!
Also, OP you have the opportunity to waltz into Harvard with a score increase. WALTZING. I'm absolutely convinced that anyone can get a perfect score on the LG section given enough practice, and LR/RC is pretty friggin' learnable.
I agree about LG. RC is tougher to "learn" esp. for non-native speakers. but with a perfect LG & only one or two missed LR per section, you have to really fuck up RC to get below 165
At least two people ITT have never heard of ZONES
But in all seriousness, fuck ZONES. Also fuck -10 curves every time you take the damn test.
Yeah, it wasn't that bad. I was only -1 on that LG, and that's only because I ran out of time and had to guess on the last question due to messing up on the first set and having to redo several questions. It was much trickier on the surface than it reall was once you made sense of it and broke it down.
Re: UCH vs UCD vs Fordham
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:11 pm
by sublime
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