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Thanks again. You've done amazing work for all of us.

Much better chart, but I think this would be better expressed as some form of expected value/expected ROI. It wouldn't change the relative positions of the schools (unless you assign differing assumptions of raises) but it would provide a number that is more meaningful than an abstract "investment score." Unfortunately, you would have to do some speculation to account for clerkships.

Umm.. this is a really weird thing to chart and really gets to the point of trying to make data say too much by calling it an "investment score." For instance, say a school had a year where fed clerkships dropped by 5 percentage points while $160k jobs increased by 3 percentage points and unemployment increased by 2 percentage points. By your calculation, its investment score would have improved [(-$3000) + ($4800) +($0) = +$1800] despite the actual outcome of its class being worse.

Basically, outcomes need to be weighted or this doesn't work.

my brain hurts and i'm only one beer in help

It would be cool if you could send that to all the TTT's and we were able to see the look on their faces. Priceless like that Mastercard commercial.

Awesome but I would definitely change that $0 salary to approx 20-30,000 (near minimum wage job)

I think a job awaits you in the Office of the Dean, Univ. of N. Dakota

Good work

Have you considered making a usable version where people can insert their scholarship info and have the percentages recalculate accordingly?
(Bonus points if you can add stip provisions as a straight up percentage factor)

Another amazing thread! Thank you

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In-state Georgia's doing well in these threads.

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Regulus wrote:Yeah, one of the hopes of creating this spreadsheet, other than showing how bad of an investment many TTTs are, was to show how good some regional schools can be if one doesn't have lofty aspirations (academia, PI, AIII clerkships, biglaw, etc.). Even without using IBR or PAYE, one would likely be able to pay off their loans at many of these schools, and if they have ties, they might even find decent employment in that region.

Agreed. Good work.

fuck WUSTL is so low on this list.

tag thanks

gregfootball2001 wrote:In-state Georgia's doing well in these threads.

cm2015 wrote:

gregfootball2001 wrote:In-state Georgia's doing well in these threads.

Woo!! Thanks, Regulus, for making me feel like I've made a good decision (and for all the awesome info).

Another good resource that should be added to mylsn.info!

Sorry if this is an over-asked question, but is there incentives for schools to keep tuition low? Is this evaluated in the USNR rankings?

BlueJeanBaby wrote:Sorry if this is an over-asked question, but is there incentives for schools to keep tuition low? Is this evaluated in the USNR rankings?

No and No

guano wrote:

BlueJeanBaby wrote:Sorry if this is an over-asked question, but is there incentives for schools to keep tuition low? Is this evaluated in the USNR rankings?

No and No

I think they rather have an incentive to keep tuition rising as USNWR measures expenditure per student, and schools can always brag about how generous they are with scholarships by initially charging a lot of money.

Another great thread! Thanks!

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time to apply to UND