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sinfiery wrote:3% increase in clerkship chances at H
14% increase in clerkship chances at S
neither, imo, are worth 150k+ in debt.
Unless DC is impossible from C and likely at one of H or S, take the money for your goals.

Financially speaking ofc.

callmemaybe84 wrote:

sinfiery wrote:3% increase in clerkship chances at H
14% increase in clerkship chances at S
neither, imo, are worth 150k+ in debt.
Unless DC is impossible from C and likely at one of H or S, take the money for your goals.

Financially speaking ofc.

3 percent higher at HLS than Chicago? where are you getting that statistic?

For appellate Chicago averages 20, I'd imagine harvard (at under 3x size) averages well over 60...

And HLS/YLS own the DC Circuit. Not that that's a realistic clerking goal, but it's true...

Ghost93 wrote:take the money and run.

sinfiery wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=206368


alternatively
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=harvard
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=chicago


no idea about DC specifically

fluffythepenguin wrote:I'd venture to guess that Rubenstein scholars will clerk at a higher rate than the UofC population writ large.

Ghost93 wrote:take the money and run.

jetsfan1 wrote:Slightly off topic not trying to jack the thread, but if someone wants academia, does having a Ruby at Chicago put you in as good of a position as going to Harvard?

wannabelawstudent wrote:Dude take the Ruby, much more prestigious. Hundreds of people get into Harvard each year. Only dozens get DAT RUBY.

gaud wrote:

Ghost93 wrote:take the money and run.

dixiecupdrinking wrote:I would compare more years than just the most recent one if you're looking at clerkship chances. 14% seems high for Chicago and 18% low for Harvard. These things can vary a lot year to year; class of 2012 at NYU had freaking horrible fed clerkship numbers for some reason (like, less than 6%) but it was basically twice that for class of 2011, which you'd expect to be a more competitive year since the economy was worse. Obviously federal judges didn't decide overnight that they hate NYU graduates. It's a bunch of little random things, mostly (plus I think the clerkship office messed up big time, but I digress, and the point remains).

Anyway, either way I think you should take the money.

TaipeiMort wrote:

dixiecupdrinking wrote:I would compare more years than just the most recent one if you're looking at clerkship chances. 14% seems high for Chicago and 18% low for Harvard. These things can vary a lot year to year; class of 2012 at NYU had freaking horrible fed clerkship numbers for some reason (like, less than 6%) but it was basically twice that for class of 2011, which you'd expect to be a more competitive year since the economy was worse. Obviously federal judges didn't decide overnight that they hate NYU graduates. It's a bunch of little random things, mostly (plus I think the clerkship office messed up big time, but I digress, and the point remains).

Anyway, either way I think you should take the money.

Its not low for Chicago. You forget that Chicago has an advantage in that it is the more conservative T14 school (Scalia, Epstein, Posner, Easterbrook, etc.), and owns the law/econ cult. There are a disproportionate number of conservative judges relative to the population of practicing attorneys as a whole. Therefore, Chicago outperforms its ranking and is more like H than Columbia or NYU. That being said, I don't know how much it would help if you are not going to go that route. But., liberals still perform well. See, e.g., http://uchilawgo.wordpress.com/2013/04/ ... white-guy/.