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Rahviveh
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by Rahviveh » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:43 pm
Lol, so there's an article on US News from an admissions counselor about the rankings. Most of his advice isn't that bad, but:
http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/l ... s-rankings
1. Specialization: If you are considering practicing in a specialized area, especially intellectual property or environmental law, then a law school's overall rank must take a back seat to its strength in that particular area.
For example, Vermont Law School is not a top 14 law school but is considered by many scholars and practitioners to be the clear leader in environmental law. When you are seeking a job in environmental law, the strength of Vermont's particular program will be quite impressive to employers who are, most often, specialists themselves in the field.
It is most imperative to attend a school at which your desired specialization is highly rated rather than a highly rated school that does not have a strong program, or any program at all, in your specific area of interest.
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Presidentjlh
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by Presidentjlh » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:52 pm
ChampagnePapi wrote:Lol, so there's an article on US News from an admissions counselor about the rankings. Most of his advice isn't that bad, but:
http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/l ... s-rankings
1. Specialization: If you are considering practicing in a specialized area, especially intellectual property or environmental law, then a law school's overall rank must take a back seat to its strength in that particular area.
For example, Vermont Law School is not a top 14 law school but is considered by many scholars and practitioners to be the clear leader in environmental law. When you are seeking a job in environmental law, the strength of Vermont's particular program will be quite impressive to employers who are, most often, specialists themselves in the field.
It is most imperative to attend a school at which your desired specialization is highly rated rather than a highly rated school that does not have a strong program, or any program at all, in your specific area of interest.
Lololololol
It's all about location, alumni, and class rank.
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Kronk
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by Kronk » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:23 pm
I don't think that advice is all that bad, tbh.
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TTRansfer
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by TTRansfer » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:33 pm
jack5on wrote:Can someone explain why/how Cardozo still gets a part-time program ranking even though you must matriculate to the full-time program after a year? Seems as shiesty as it gets.
Good question. Should be TTTT for sure.
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gaucholaw
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by gaucholaw » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:38 pm
Micdiddy wrote:slack_academic wrote:Freebirds is overrated.
The fuck? You must be talking about those fake freebirds that have cropped up near USC and even in Roseville, CA and all the way in Texas. I am talking about the one true freebirds. Please tell me you do not think that's overrated. What are you a Super Cucas guy?
it's all about Rosaritas 4.95$ burritos from 7-10 pm
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bport hopeful
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by bport hopeful » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:49 pm
bport hopeful wrote:Im going to graduate from a TTT.
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Cobretti
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by Cobretti » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:52 pm
gaucholaw wrote:Micdiddy wrote:slack_academic wrote:Freebirds is overrated.
The fuck? You must be talking about those fake freebirds that have cropped up near USC and even in Roseville, CA and all the way in Texas. I am talking about the one true freebirds. Please tell me you do not think that's overrated. What are you a Super Cucas guy?
it's all about Rosaritas 4.95$ burritos from 7-10 pm
super cucas is probably better food, but my heart won't let me pick it over freebirds
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Micdiddy
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by Micdiddy » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:02 pm
mrizza wrote:gaucholaw wrote:Micdiddy wrote:slack_academic wrote:Freebirds is overrated.
The fuck? You must be talking about those fake freebirds that have cropped up near USC and even in Roseville, CA and all the way in Texas. I am talking about the one true freebirds. Please tell me you do not think that's overrated. What are you a Super Cucas guy?
it's all about Rosaritas 4.95$ burritos from 7-10 pm
super cucas is probably better food, but my heart won't let me pick it over freebirds
That's a good heart man! A good heart!
And seriously, Rosaritas? If I want fried in my burrito I'd go to McDonals, order fries, then taco bell, get a burrito, then mix the two.
But also Super Cucas is actually really, really good I cannot lie.
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Gatriel
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by Gatriel » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:40 pm
FML.
Does anyone have the breakdown on Pepperdine and what the hell happened?
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Dr. Dre
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by Dr. Dre » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:41 pm
Good Marshall wrote:
Maybe Irvine is projected to absorb some of the OC market.
Are you serious? The OC market is shit, socal market is shit, all of california is shit.
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Dr. Dre
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by Dr. Dre » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:42 pm
bport hopeful wrote:bport hopeful wrote:Im going to graduate from a TTT.
so UC Davis/ Hastings ?
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Gatriel
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by Gatriel » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:43 pm
Dr. Dre wrote:Good Marshall wrote:
Maybe Irvine is projected to absorb some of the OC market.
Are you serious? The OC market is shit, socal market is shit, all of california is shit.
This is very credited.
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Ded Precedent
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by Ded Precedent » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:44 pm
bport hopeful wrote:bport hopeful wrote:Im going to graduate from a TTT.
Fordham?
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cahwc12
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by cahwc12 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:02 pm
Gatriel wrote:FML.
Does anyone have the breakdown on Pepperdine and what the hell happened?
Here you go.
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lhanvt13
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by lhanvt13 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:05 pm
Anybody know when the new employment data are coming out? Aba nalp
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Gatriel
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by Gatriel » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:08 pm
This was a poorly phrased question, what component of USNWR's computation fell so dramatically leading to this result.
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Dr. Dre
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by Dr. Dre » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:08 pm
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Ave
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by Ave » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:13 pm
Dr. Dre wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:You.jpg
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LOL
The order in your rebus...
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spleenworship
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by spleenworship » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:23 pm
My school moved up 3 spots. I just wanted to say that. Still a T2.
There, now I feel like I said something about it to people who might give 1/4 of a fart about it. Because no one at my school cares one bit. (obviously, or they would've either tried harder to go to a school with a better ranking or they chose my school anyway)
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Aroldis105
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by Aroldis105 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:36 pm
E-mail today from Illinois offering a fee waiver and the promise of scholarship money.
Somebody is hitting the panic button.
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TTRansfer
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by TTRansfer » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:41 pm
Aroldis105 wrote:E-mail today from Illinois offering a fee waiver and the promise of scholarship money.
Somebody is hitting the panic button.
I doubt they will get as desperate as RU-C (basically offering people guaranteed admittance without even seeing LSAT scores -- they may not even have required a score or some bullshit).
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PRgradBYU
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by PRgradBYU » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:13 pm
Aroldis105 wrote:E-mail today from Illinois offering a fee waiver and the promise of scholarship money.
Somebody is hitting the panic button.
LOL, promise of scholarship money. UIUC got the biggest shaft of the year with these rankings.
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wannabelawstudent
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by wannabelawstudent » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:16 pm
Wtf Illinois if you're doing this why not take me off the waitlist.
I wonder how many people withdrew today. I almost did for the lols.
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CO2016YEAH
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by CO2016YEAH » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:30 pm
Gatriel wrote:
This was a poorly phrased question, what component of USNWR's computation fell so dramatically leading to this result.
I suspect the fall is largely due to the new methodology for employment, which requires a student to be employed in a full time job lasting at least a year, for which a JD is required or an advantage. No more Starbucks workers being considered "employed."
I don't have the breakdown of methodology (though it is usually available on their site) but I know careers is a pretty important component.
Schools in saturated markets dropped. Schools in better markets improved.
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Lord Randolph McDuff
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by Lord Randolph McDuff » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:49 pm
CO2016YEAH wrote:Gatriel wrote:
This was a poorly phrased question, what component of USNWR's computation fell so dramatically leading to this result.
I suspect the fall is largely due to the new methodology for employment, which requires a student to be employed in a full time job lasting at least a year, for which a JD is required or an advantage. No more Starbucks workers being considered "employed."
I don't have the breakdown of methodology (though it is usually available on their site) but I know careers is a pretty important component.
Schools in saturated markets dropped. Schools in better markets improved.
Careers is 20%. Yeah your spot on the new methodology explains most of the changes. Great changes. People should be talking about the shift more! Now 0Ls can look up employment data on the sacred rankings and see T1 schools dropping down in the 40s and 50s in employment percentage.
The biggest part of the ranking (40%) is still reputation scores. This is the least talked about portion of the rankings, and (unsurprisingly) the portion we know the least about.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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