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Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:53 am
by Midwestguy90
I am originally from the midwest (hence the name) and want to wind up back there. My main concerns are $$ and getting a job, rankings don't concern me greatly. I am pretty open to winding up anyone in the area after graduation. I was wondering what suggestions folks may have. Are there certain schools which dominate markets?

Btw I have a 160 and a decent GPA from a midwest state school.

I am specifically interested in Creighton/KU/MU/UMKC/Washburn/Nebraska.

Thanks everyone, this board is amazing for a long time lurker!

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:12 am
by Crowing
You're going to have to be more specific. None of those schools will place in the Midwest as a whole; you need to look at individual states.

1) What state are you from/where are your personal ties?
2) What state are you a resident of?
3) What kind of a job are you looking for?

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:09 pm
by 313DetroitLove
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Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:43 pm
by EdgarWinter
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Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:16 pm
by suralin
313DetroitLove wrote:Case Western Reserve. I too had a 160, got a 123k scholarship. Just interviewed with corporate job as summer associate as a 1L in chicago, and have interviews in my home town in Detroit at Plunkett, and Kitch this week. Would highly advise CWRU for midwest, only 40% of their alums stay in ohio. Case bumped their lsat up this year from 158 to 160 no GPA stip but academic good standing. Expect this school to jump in the rankings.

W
lol

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:49 am
by Pumpkin_Pie
Best value law schools ranked by tuition and job prospects- http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cypress ... /index.php

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Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:59 am
by cinephile
In-state school that dominates its market?

Just read the rest of your post, I didn't think Kansas/Nebraska was part of the midwest. It's more of a plains state than a midwestern state.

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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:25 am
by Myself
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Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:34 pm
by ineptimusprime
EdgarWinter wrote:I would advise against Washburn. I hear they are beat out by KU generally.
I go to KU, and I'm not sure this is the case. Washburn and KU have a similar relationship to Creighton and UNL in Nebraska. Creighton and Washburn probably have more lay prestige than KU and UNL. If you want to end up in Kansas, Washburn and KU are basically interchangeable. If you want to leave Kansas, KU is probably the better choice.

I love KU. If you have questions about KU, PM me. I could also put you in touch with students at Washburn and UNL if you're interested.

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:19 pm
by romothesavior
313DetroitLove wrote:Case Western Reserve. I too had a 160, got a 123k scholarship. Just interviewed with corporate job as summer associate as a 1L in chicago, and have interviews in my home town in Detroit at Plunkett, and Kitch this week. Would highly advise CWRU for midwest, only 40% of their alums stay in ohio. Case bumped their lsat up this year from 158 to 160 no GPA stip but academic good standing. Expect this school to jump in the rankings.

W
Good for you. The overwhelming majority of your classmates are not in that boat. Anecdotes can be helpful, but "It worked out for me" doesn't lead to the conclusion "It'll probably work out for you!"

Also rankings are worthless.

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:59 pm
by 313DetroitLove
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Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:06 pm
by dissonance1848
University of Chicago with the Rubenstein.

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:38 pm
by suralin
313DetroitLove wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
313DetroitLove wrote:Case Western Reserve. I too had a 160, got a 123k scholarship. Just interviewed with corporate job as summer associate as a 1L in chicago, and have interviews in my home town in Detroit at Plunkett, and Kitch this week. Would highly advise CWRU for midwest, only 40% of their alums stay in ohio. Case bumped their lsat up this year from 158 to 160 no GPA stip but academic good standing. Expect this school to jump in the rankings.

W
Good for you. The overwhelming majority of your classmates are not in that boat. Anecdotes can be helpful, but "It worked out for me" doesn't lead to the conclusion "It'll probably work out for you!"

Also rankings are worthless.

Life is what you make it, maybe asides from OCI in the top 20% a job is not going to just land in your lap. I learned a long time ago that if you want something to just go grab it. BTW, I'm in the top third, nothing to really even write home about. CWRU is good enough (especially for free) to have a really great career.

w
LOL. So deep

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:19 pm
by romothesavior
Translation: I'm doing alright, and if my classmates aren't, that's their own damn fault for being lazy/not smart enough/not desirable enough candidates.

I have nothing against Case, and I'm glad you're enjoying your time there. But your anecdote about doing well does not mean it is a good investment. Over half the graduates there wind up without a full-time, permanent JD-required job. Only about 40% of their class is represented by the salary data, which is not a good sign, especially considering the median salary for that 40% is 70k. The school employed over 10% of their graduates in school-funded jobs. And if you want to talk about "value," the non-discounted cost of the school is almost a quarter of a million dollars. I'd trust that data far more than your anecdote.

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:00 am
by 313DetroitLove
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Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:08 am
by romothesavior
Fair enough. That ^ was actually a pretty good post. The first two you posted in here were some fairytale "work hard and you'll make it" advice, which was why you got the responses you did.

If OP truly can't do better than his current LSAT, then he should go to the cheapest school in the region where is from and try to work there.

Re: Best Value Law Schools in Midwest?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:19 pm
by 313DetroitLove
romothesavior wrote:Fair enough. That ^ was actually a pretty good post. The first two you posted in here were some fairytale "work hard and you'll make it" advice, which was why you got the responses you did.

If OP truly can't do better than his current LSAT, then he should go to the cheapest school in the region where is from and try to work there.
Thanks man.