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Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:00 am
by jsalmasi
Hey everyone,

To keep it short, I am from Philly and aspire to work there after graduation. I haven't gotten into any other Philadelphia schools thus far. I realize that Drexel has the prime location, but it is such a new school with minimal recognition. Syracuse has the name, but it is so far that I'm thinking it's not worth it if I plan to come back to Philly after graduation. With the scholarships I have received, I will be paying practically the same for either school. What do you think?

PS save the "retake" advice

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:06 am
by bluepenguin
Syracuse gets you a marginally better chance at getting *a* job. It is highly unlikely that it will be in Philadelphia. If you get legal work out of Drexel it will probably be in Philadelphia, but getting legal work is a crapshoot.

Pick your poison.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:11 am
by Aawaldrop
None of the above

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:19 am
by jsalmasi
Aawaldrop wrote:None of the above
Dully noted.

Bump

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:21 am
by shifty_eyed
Retake or don't go

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:22 am
by Icculus
jsalmasi wrote:
Aawaldrop wrote:None of the above
Dully noted.

Bump
Really? a 20 minute bump?

As has been said before, this is like asking should I shoot myself in the face or shoot myself in the stomach?
Is either free? Then that one.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:23 am
by Icculus
shifty_eyed wrote:Retake or don't go
This is the correct answer.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:27 am
by jsalmasi
Icculus wrote:
shifty_eyed wrote:Retake or don't go
This is the correct answer.
I'm sorry my bump offended you. I am very very sorry.

Once again, I am not retaking. Anyone else that is planning on telling me to retake, save the energy and leave this page.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:27 am
by jsalmasi
Bump

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:28 am
by shifty_eyed
jsalmasi wrote:
Icculus wrote:
shifty_eyed wrote:Retake or don't go
This is the correct answer.
I'm sorry my bump offended you. I am very very sorry.

Once again, I am not retaking. Anyone else that is planning on telling me to retake, save the energy and leave this page.
So don't go.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:28 am
by jsalmasi
shifty_eyed wrote:
jsalmasi wrote:
Icculus wrote:
shifty_eyed wrote:Retake or don't go
This is the correct answer.
I'm sorry my bump offended you. I am very very sorry.

Once again, I am not retaking. Anyone else that is planning on telling me to retake, save the energy and leave this page.
So don't go.
I am going.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:34 am
by somewhatwayward
jsalmasi wrote:
Aawaldrop wrote:None of the above
Dully noted.
LOL

Anyway, OP, what is the cost? All you said was that they cost the same.

The only way either school would be worth it would be for free. Even then you need to think about the fact that you may be wasting three years to end up with nothing to show for it because neither school places more than half its class into legal jobs.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:45 am
by Richie Tenenbaum
OP, so based on your post history, you'll be paying around 30K per year at either school (plus cost of living)--is that correct? If so, the choice is clearly neither. If you want to be a lawyer, retake the LSAT. If it's not worth retaking, explore other career options. If you continue on the path you are currently on, you might be making one of the worst financial decisions of your life.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:48 am
by jsalmasi
somewhatwayward wrote:
jsalmasi wrote:
Aawaldrop wrote:None of the above
Dully noted.
LOL

Anyway, OP, what is the cost? All you said was that they cost the same.

The only way either school would be worth it would be for free. Even then you need to think about the fact that you may be wasting three years to end up with nothing to show for it because neither school places more than half its class into legal jobs.
It's exams week. Been a long night. Sorry about adding an extra l in duly. I'll try harder next time. For all intensive purposes, they are free and don't worry about me wasting three years of my life. "Retake" means absolutely nothing to me so save your time and leave this thread if that is all you have to offer. Pick Drexel, Syracuse, or a better way to spend your time.

Save the "retake" or "neither" advice ladies and gentlemen. For the love of god, read my initial post and act accordingly. Or don't.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:51 am
by Nova

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:53 am
by Richie Tenenbaum
If your parents (or someone else) is footing the entire bill, then sure it's not an awful idea. It may end up being a waste of three years if you don't end up with a legal job, but if you have no debt and don't mind the poor job prospects, that changes the analysis. (Though, maybe you should inform your parents or whoever is paying about how bad of an investment they are making.) If the school is free, compare the two on lawschooltransparency and balance that with which school you think you would enjoy more.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:53 am
by empyreanrrv
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school= ... b=location

Syracuse does not seem like it will get you back to Philadelphia. In your situation I think Drexel would give you the best bet of a legal job in philadelphia. I have a friend there now and he seems to like it, whatever that is worth.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:57 am
by jsalmasi
empyreanrrv wrote:http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school= ... b=location

Syracuse does not seem like it will get you back to Philadelphia. In your situation I think Drexel would give you the best bet of a legal job in Philadelphia. I have a friend there now and he seems to like it, whatever that is worth.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
Finally someone gives me something to work with. I appreciate it.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:00 am
by rad lulz
jsalmasi wrote:
empyreanrrv wrote:http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school= ... b=location

Syracuse does not seem like it will get you back to Philadelphia. In your situation I think Drexel would give you the best bet of a legal job in Philadelphia. I have a friend there now and he seems to like it, whatever that is worth.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
Finally someone gives me something to work with. I appreciate it.
Go to Drexel, but quickly disabuse yourself of the notion that you will get a job. HTH.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:03 am
by jsalmasi
rad lulz wrote:
jsalmasi wrote:
empyreanrrv wrote:http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school= ... b=location

Syracuse does not seem like it will get you back to Philadelphia. In your situation I think Drexel would give you the best bet of a legal job in Philadelphia. I have a friend there now and he seems to like it, whatever that is worth.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
Finally someone gives me something to work with. I appreciate it.
Go to Drexel, but quickly disabuse yourself of the notion that you will get a job. HTH.
Got it. Thanks.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:34 am
by nebula666
Both give you about a 50/50 chance at being a lawyer making ~$50k.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:06 am
by hephaestus
Out of curiosity, why can't you retake?

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:23 am
by cooldude87
I've seen the word "disabuse" being used on this forum a lot lately

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:03 am
by North
Wasting mommy and daddy's money because OP doesn't want to put in the work to do it right.

Re: Drexel or Syracuse?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:31 am
by Icculus
jsalmasi wrote: It's exams week. Been a long night. Sorry about adding an extra l in duly. I'll try harder next time. For all intensive purposes, they are free and don't worry about me wasting three years of my life. "Retake" means absolutely nothing to me so save your time and leave this thread if that is all you have to offer. Pick Drexel, Syracuse, or a better way to spend your time.

Save the "retake" or "neither" advice ladies and gentlemen. For the love of god, read my initial post and act accordingly. Or don't.
For the love of god you are still in undergrad, at least that's the assumption I am making since you have exams. Now, even though you may think you know everything you have come to a message board full of people who have already gone through the process you are about to start. I was in your position once, found TLS, dealt with it, and ended up in a far better position than had I not found it.

People are telling you to retake not because we are ultracompetitive assholes (though some of us are) but because we don't want to see you make a huge mistake. Unless school is free, as in full tuition + living expenses and no stips on the money these are not worth it. (Mommy and Daddy paying is not free.) Maybe if you already have a guaranteed job lined up, ane even then I think neither option is worth it. I hate the fact people come on here, get good advice (albeit sometimes in a harsh tone) and assume we're the assholes for giving good advice.

The world isn't fair, and people can be harsh. If you can't take some criticism/harsh tone on a fucking internet message board the legal profession may not be for you.