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The Real Tier 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:20 am
by 1984
When most of you all discuss
tier 2 law schools, are you referring to #51-#100 or to the #100+ club?
I understand that the "old" Tier 2 was considered #51-#100 but I wasn't sure if you all use the old standard or the new standard. Didn't U.S. News change things up recently?
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:25 am
by rinkrat19
US News changed things up. TLS ignored it because it was stupid and served mainly to further validate the existence of schools >100 by putting them in Tier 2 and giving them actual rankings.
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:26 am
by stillwater
LOL at the USNWR changing things up. They are in cahoots with ASU.
Tier 2 is still 51-100
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:33 am
by 1984
So, it's fair to say that most law schools themselves still abide by the Tier 2=#51-#100 standard?
To clarify, when T14 schools look at transfer candidates, they still perceive schools #51-#100 as Tier 2 as opposed to Tier 1?
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:40 am
by rinkrat19
1984 wrote:So, it's fair to say that most law schools themselves still abide by the Tier 2=#51-#100 standard?
To clarify, when T14 schools look at transfer candidates, they still perceive schools #51-#100 as Tier 2 as opposed to Tier 1?
I don't know that they formally write down anywhere "this student is transferring from Tier 2." But they sure as shit know that Lewis & Clark is higher-ranked, and its students generally higher-qualified, than Nova.
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:47 am
by Ludo!
rinkrat19 wrote:TLS ignored it because it was stupid.
yup
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:59 am
by rvadog
1984 wrote:So, it's fair to say that most law schools themselves still abide by the Tier 2=#51-#100 standard?
To clarify, when T14 schools look at transfer candidates, they still perceive schools #51-#100 as Tier 2 as opposed to Tier 1?
Are you honestly asking if USNWR's arbitrary method of categorizing law schools caused a fundamental shift in the way Columbia's admissions committee views schools ranked 51-100?
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:04 pm
by 1984
rvadog wrote:1984 wrote:So, it's fair to say that most law schools themselves still abide by the Tier 2=#51-#100 standard?
To clarify, when T14 schools look at transfer candidates, they still perceive schools #51-#100 as Tier 2 as opposed to Tier 1?
Are you honestly asking if USNWR's arbitrary method of categorizing law schools caused a fundamental shift in the way Columbia's admissions committee views schools ranked 51-100?
I wouldn't say that. I was just trying to gauge the nature of the change and the extent to which it should matter.
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:40 pm
by Yukos
1984 wrote:rvadog wrote:1984 wrote:So, it's fair to say that most law schools themselves still abide by the Tier 2=#51-#100 standard?
To clarify, when T14 schools look at transfer candidates, they still perceive schools #51-#100 as Tier 2 as opposed to Tier 1?
Are you honestly asking if USNWR's arbitrary method of categorizing law schools caused a fundamental shift in the way Columbia's admissions committee views schools ranked 51-100?
I wouldn't say that. I was just trying to gauge the nature of the change and the extent to which it should matter.
I doesn't matter unless USNWR also managed to change the quality of the schools in tier 2. Based on last year's admission statistics, they didn't.
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:59 pm
by BarbellDreams
Honestly there should only be 2 Tiers.
Tier 1 = Schools that give you a reasonable shot at getting jobs further away than 100 miles from campus (I think roughly 25 schools would qualify in this tier for me).
Tier 2 = Schools that can only get you jobs in the city they are located in, however are considered the top choice or second top choice for employers in that region (Another 50 schools or so would make this list for me).
Everyone else doesn't need a tier. They are all the same.
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:02 pm
by rad lulz
BarbellDreams wrote:Honestly there should only be 2 Tiers.
Tier 1 = Schools that give you a reasonable shot at getting jobs further away than 100 miles from campus (I think roughly 25 schools would qualify in this tier for me).
Tier 2 = Schools that can only get you jobs in the city they are located in, however are considered the top choice or second top choice for employers in that region (Another 50 schools or so would make this list for me).
Everyone else doesn't need a tier. They are all the same. shit
Fixed
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:07 pm
by stillwater
how about that Florida Coast School of the Space Law
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:13 pm
by kuttlefish
stillwater wrote:how about that Florida Coast School of the Space Law
Space = greater than 100 miles from florida = tier 1
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:46 pm
by Justin Genious
rad lulz wrote:BarbellDreams wrote:Honestly there should only be 2 Tiers.
Tier 1 = Schools that give you a reasonable shot at getting jobs further away than 100 miles from campus (I think roughly 25 schools would qualify in this tier for me).
Tier 2 = Schools that can only get you jobs in the city they are located in, however are considered the top choice or second top choice for employers in that region (Another 50 schools or so would make this list for me).
Everyone else doesn't need a tier. They are all the same. shit
Fixed
Double fixed
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:04 am
by DML13
Tier 1 is now 1-100. Tier 3 is 101-150, 4 is 151-200+
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:05 am
by stillwater
DML13 wrote:Tier 1 is now 1-100. Tier 3 is 101-150, 4 is 151-200+
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:15 am
by tkim129
BarbellDreams wrote:Honestly there should only be 2 Tiers.
Tier 1 = Schools that give you a reasonable shot at getting jobs further away than 100 miles from campus (I think roughly 25 schools would qualify in this tier for me).
Tier 2 = Schools that can only get you jobs in the city they are located in, however are considered the top choice or second top choice for employers in that region (Another 50 schools or so would make this list for me).
Everyone else doesn't need a tier. They are all the same.
This.
Re: The Real Tier 2
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:08 pm
by Ludo!
DML13 wrote:Tier 1 is now 1-100. Tier 3 is 101-150, 4 is 151-200+
rinkrat19 wrote:TLS ignored it because it was stupid.
Re: The Real Teir 2
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:59 pm
by manofjustice
Ludovico Technique wrote:rinkrat19 wrote:TLS ignored it because it was stupid.
yup
Agreed. T2 = 51-100.