Class sizes and medians (c/o 2015) Forum

2014 · Post by **2014** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:53 pm

The Illinois admissions dean said in her thread here that apps are down this year at every school she is aware of. I heard the UChi dean said she expected fewer apps at a student meeting yesterday.

hq2x · Post by **hq2x** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:16 pm

Semi-related question: does anyone have details on the 2013 US News medians/25/75? The TLS frontpage shows data for 2012, and US News itself charges. I was wondering if anyone posted them here (someone did for 2012)

onionz · Post by **onionz** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:25 pm

hq2x wrote:Semi-related question: does anyone have details on the 2013 US News medians/25/75? The TLS frontpage shows data for 2012, and US News itself charges. I was wondering if anyone posted them here (someone did for 2012)

They come out in March. So no.

togepi · Post by **togepi** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:58 am

Any idea of Tulane's new medians?

DoctorShawHi · Post by **DoctorShawHi** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:25 pm

Any updates on Illinois? Timeline for release? Seems like they've fallen off the map.

2014 · Post by **2014** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:44 pm

Illinois dean is taking questions either in this forum or the admissions one

manofjustice · Post by **manofjustice** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:28 pm

So applications declined again this year. Anyone know the breakdown as far as LSAT ranges?

skri65 · Post by **skri65** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:04 pm

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... stered.asp

They still haven't released # of test takers from October. This will have a significant impact on our cycle, for obvious reasons.

Aberzombie1892 · Post by **Aberzombie1892** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:09 pm

togepi wrote:Any idea of Tulane's new medians?

They never publicly release them. Either contact them directly or wait until the next US News. If you need to know for strategy purposes, you need to do the former.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:46 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:
togepi wrote:Any idea of Tulane's new medians?
They never publicly release them. Either contact them directly or wait until the next US News. If you need to know for strategy purposes, you need to do the former.

And then post them.

altoid99 · Post by **altoid99** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:49 pm

Does anyone know when LSAC usually updates their profiles of schools with the new medians and such?

Kurst · Post by **Kurst** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:19 pm

altoid99 wrote:Does anyone know when LSAC usually updates their profiles of schools with the new medians and such?

The Class of 2014 data was published in the ABA-LSAC Guide on July 18, 2012.

Huskies13! · Post by **Huskies13!** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:31 pm

GW (finally!) posted:

398 (474)
167 (167)
3.60 (3.82) (!)

geary86 · Post by **geary86** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:13 pm

Huskies13! wrote:GW (finally!) posted:

398 (474)
167 (167)
3.60 (3.82) (!)

That is by far the largest drop in the GPA median... looks like they had to sacrifice the GPA in order to hold on to the 167

minnbills · Post by **minnbills** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:19 pm

GW is even more TTT now.

thelawyler · Post by **thelawyler** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:14 am

geary86 wrote:
Huskies13! wrote:GW (finally!) posted:

398 (474)
167 (167)
3.60 (3.82) (!)
That is by far the largest drop in the GPA median... looks like they had to sacrifice the GPA in order to hold on to the 167

The drop of 76 in class size is super nice, too.

kwu · Post by **kwu** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:23 pm

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... ofile.html

Enrolled students 207 (-57)
Applications 4135 (+447)
LSAT distribution
Middle 50% 164 (-1) - 171 (0)
Median 170 (0)
GPA distribution
Middle 50% 3.40 (+0.05) - 3.85 (0)
Median 3.75 (0)

Rahviveh · Post by **Rahviveh** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:51 pm

Wow. Major Kudos to NW for that big cut in class size.

foosbol21 · Post by **foosbol21** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:06 pm

Does that 264 from last year include AJD or JD/MBA people? For some reason I thought NU's normal JD class from last year was much closer to 200 than that. Also, when you sum all those three classifications (JD, AJD and JD/MBA) from this year, it's 259, which seems more in line with the 264 from last year.

rayiner · Post by **rayiner** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:42 am

foosbol21 wrote:Does that 264 from last year include AJD or JD/MBA people? For some reason I thought NU's normal JD class from last year was much closer to 200 than that. Also, when you sum all those three classifications (JD, AJD and JD/MBA) from this year, it's 259, which seems more in line with the 264 from last year.

The 264 last year includes AJD+JD/MBA+JD. It just looks like they split up the reporting onto three pages.

Still, I think C/O 2012 and C/O 2013 were 270-275, so it's a little drop (5% or so). NU's class size before the AJD program was about 240-250 including JD-MBA's for reference. Also, half the JD-MBA's won't do law and won't be competing with you for jobs, so that's important to keep in mind.

kwu · Post by **kwu** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:30 am

Northwestern split reporting last year too: check Google cache to confirm.

2011
Entering Class General Statistics (JD Program)
Enrolled students 264
Accelerated JD Class Profile
Enrolls 23
Class Profile: 2011 JD-MBA Entrants
Class size: ??

2012
Traditional 3-Year JD Class Profile
Enrolled students 207
Accelerated JD Class Profile
Enrolled students 28
Entering Class General Statistics (JD-MBA)
Enrolled students 24

rayiner · Post by **rayiner** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:40 am

kwu wrote:Northwestern split reporting last year too: check Google cache to confirm.

2011
Entering Class General Statistics (JD Program)
Enrolled students 264
Accelerated JD Class Profile
Enrolls 23
Class Profile: 2011 JD-MBA Entrants
Class size: ??

2012
Traditional 3-Year JD Class Profile
Enrolled students 207
Accelerated JD Class Profile
Enrolled students 28
Entering Class General Statistics (JD-MBA)
Enrolled students 24

No, they just suck at web pages. My year (2012) they reported 242, including JD's and JD-MBA's but not AJD's. For 2013 and 2014 they included JD-MBA's and AJD's to get 272, 264. This year they reported each one separately, but the total is 259.

jne381 · Post by **jne381** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:10 pm

Michigan State has said that is plans to lower the 2013 entering class to 280 students.

In the past it was usually right around 300, give or take a handful of students. This year last year it was at 298.

I don't know if this is an attempt to raise the profile or just a response to less people applying to law school.

HarlandBassett · Post by **HarlandBassett** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:28 pm

ChampagnePapi wrote:Wow. Major Kudos to NW for that big cut in class size.

those reductions in class size are most likely offset by an increase in 2L incoming transfers, whose credentials don't affect the rankings.

lovelaw27 · Post by **lovelaw27** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:13 pm

MAJOR drop in October lsat takers. A drop of 16.4% from the prior year.

October 2011 45,169
October 2012 37,780

http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/ ... stered.asp

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