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UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:47 pm
by murrrie
Please help!
I'm committed to USC and they've given me a 100+k scholly but Chicago just took me off their waiting list and offered about a third of that and I'm TORN!
1. I want to work in LA.
2. I f*cking hate the cold.
4. I heard Chicago's law students are competitive up the ***. Is this true?
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:51 pm
by glitter178
USC edited: but regardless of where you go, don't do jd/mba
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:00 pm
by CanadianWolf
USC, but always do JD/MBA if you have the aptitude for both.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:03 pm
by thelawyler
Tell USC about the Chicago offer.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:56 pm
by MitchSpierer
I graduated USC in '09. You won't find a better connected law school if you want to work in LA. Also, the JD/MBA program is great and admission is almost guaranteed b/c the law school has tougher admissions requirements in general.
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Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:02 pm
by JollyGreenGiant
MitchSpierer wrote:I graduated USC in '09. You won't find a better connected law school if you want to work in LA. Also, the JD/MBA program is great and admission is almost guaranteed b/c the law school has tougher admissions requirements in general.
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I bet it is connected, but I've always been concerned that I won't have a professional network. If only I could leverage the benefits of social networking in a professional environment with tools made specifically for lawyers.
Alas, my vote is for Chicago.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:04 pm
by Flash
I would go with Chicago. The people from LA have had a pretty easy time getting back from UChicago. If you really want to stay in LA try and leverage your Chicago offer to a USC full ride.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:09 pm
by Elston Gunn
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... yment+data
USC: more than 50% possibly fucked, and you'll still be in big debt.
Chicago: not listed, but probably around CLS, so around 20-25%
Things are better now, but that's quite a large difference.
Chicago.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:56 pm
by Dany
I don't know anything about working in California or JD/MBAs, so I'm just responding to the last two:
murrrie wrote:3. I f*cking hate the cold.
4. I heard Chicago's law students are competitive up the ***. Is this true?
3. It's really not that bad. I just stayed indoors and took the bus right to school and wasn't outside much at all on the cold days. All your classes are in one building so it's not like you'll have to traipse around outside during the winter if you don't want to. And down coats are amazing.
4. Absolutely not true. At all. People share notes and outlines, take practice exams together, etc. If anything, schools with worse employment statistics would be much more competitive because there's a much bigger risk of failure. And you're in classes with 90 people with the majority of people getting the same grade, so no one feels like they need to harm other people to do well themselves. It's really a non-issue.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:03 am
by 83947368
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Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:04 am
by Dany
Yeah definitely negotiate with USC, and don't be afraid to negotiate with UChicago, either. It can't hurt.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:06 am
by soccerfreak
Adm.Doppleganger wrote:Dood you have to 1. tell USC about Chicago immediately. Demand money. And then almost certainly, 2. Go to Chicago.
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Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:13 am
by Doorkeeper
Chicago. You shouldn't have a problem getting back to CA, and your professional options will be much greater in LA than if you went to USC (unless you were top 10-20% at USC).
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:06 am
by BearState
30k off the waitlist from UChicago is something else. Maybe Campos is right. Congrats, btw.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:12 am
by Law Sauce
Gotta to go to chicago. Totally different level of school.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:36 am
by murrrie
Whoa,
Thanks for the feedback guys! I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I'm definitely taking the advice and negotiating with USC before I make the leap... Seems like a small majority recommends Chicago but interestingly enough, it's not an overwhelming one.
Also, thoughts on JD/MBA? Why do some of you advise against it?
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:42 am
by 0L Hoping for 1
murrrie wrote:Whoa,
Thanks for the feedback guys! I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I'm definitely taking the advice and negotiating with USC before I make the leap... Seems like a small majority recommends Chicago but interestingly enough, it's not an overwhelming one.
Also, thoughts on JD/MBA? Why do some of you advise against it?
My vote goes to Chicago (but I go there so I may be bias). I know many people who are going to LA from Uchicago and all seemed to have a pretty easy time getting into one of the major firms there.
I would partially advise against a JD/MBA only if you want to be in a big firm for awhile. Although I do think it is valuable, it can make it more difficult to get into a firm. Some partners see the JD/MBA as a signal that you will not stick around and, therefore, why should they invest in you. Also, the summer positions are more difficult to get since you will have an added year. Plus, there is an extra year tuition, which may make it financially infeasible for some.
That being said, the JD/MBAs from Uchicago all got amazing Biglaw positions.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:49 am
by moneybagsphd
BearState wrote:30k off the waitlist from UChicago is something else. Maybe Campos is right.[/b[Congrats, btw.
173/3.6
I can feel the desperation...
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:51 am
by Nelson
moneybagsphd wrote:BearState wrote:30k off the waitlist from UChicago is something else. Maybe Campos is right.[/b[Congrats, btw.
173/3.6
I can feel the desperation...
Sky falling confirmed.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:55 am
by BearState
My bad, didn't know OP's numbers.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:57 am
by murrrie
0L Hoping for 1 wrote:My vote goes to Chicago (but I go there so I may be bias). I know many people who are going to LA from Uchicago and all seemed to have a pretty easy time getting into one of the major firms there.
I would partially advise against a JD/MBA only if you want to be in a big firm for awhile. Although I do think it is valuable, it can make it more difficult to get into a firm. Some partners see the JD/MBA as a signal that you will not stick around and, therefore, why should they invest in you. Also, the summer positions are more difficult to get since you will have an added year. Plus, there is an extra year tuition, which may make it financially infeasible for some.
That being said, the JD/MBAs from Uchicago all got amazing Biglaw positions.
Hey thanks for the reply!
When you say "the JD/MBAs from UChicago"--do you know all of them and are there a significant number of people pursuing that? Do you happen to know how competitive it is to enter Booth as a current JD?
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:08 pm
by moneybagsphd
BearState wrote:My bad, didn't know OP's numbers.
TBF, 3.6 is <25%.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:19 pm
by 0L Hoping for 1
murrrie wrote:0L Hoping for 1 wrote:My vote goes to Chicago (but I go there so I may be bias). I know many people who are going to LA from Uchicago and all seemed to have a pretty easy time getting into one of the major firms there.
I would partially advise against a JD/MBA only if you want to be in a big firm for awhile. Although I do think it is valuable, it can make it more difficult to get into a firm. Some partners see the JD/MBA as a signal that you will not stick around and, therefore, why should they invest in you. Also, the summer positions are more difficult to get since you will have an added year. Plus, there is an extra year tuition, which may make it financially infeasible for some.
That being said, the JD/MBAs from Uchicago all got amazing Biglaw positions.
Hey thanks for the reply!
When you say "the JD/MBAs from UChicago"--do you know all of them and are there a significant number of people pursuing that? Do you happen to know how competitive it is to enter Booth as a current JD?
I believe there are only around 3 in the 3L class and 4 in the 2L class. So, I do know all of them (there may be a few I am not thinking about. You still need the GMAT score for sure, but they really take kindly to JD/MBAs so you can usually get it if you put your mind to it. If you have more questions, feel free to PM me and I can set you up with the head of the JD/MDA Association who can answer questions.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:39 pm
by bingbang1025
Pretty obvious that, given specifics of OP's situation, UChicago is the better choice.
Re: UChicago 30K vs. USC 105K
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:05 pm
by CanadianWolf
What specifics ? "Want to work in LA & hate the cold" ?