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Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:59 pm
by emola
Hi all,

I just (minutes ago) got admitted to Emory law.

I had decided to go to Loyola (I live near LA, but would have to move closer to Loyola as commuting would be anywhere from 1 to 2+ hours each way depending on traffic, daily accidents, etc)

NO interest at all in "Big Law" - had a life-long desire to do PI and perhaps International law (on the Govt or non-profit, pro-human, pro-planet side).

Loyola is highly ranked by National Jurist for PI - way above many others.

Emory is in the top 25 and has pretty much been there for 4 years except for one odd slip to 30. Its also in Atlanta where the job market is supposedly less saturated than LA.

I'd prefer to be in CA, but don't mind working in GA.

What are your thoughts on this?

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:01 pm
by Paul Campos
emola wrote:Hi all,

I just (minutes ago) got admitted to Emory law.

I had decided to go to Loyola (I live near LA, but would have to move closer to Loyola as commuting would be anywhere from 1 to 2+ hours each way depending on traffic, daily accidents, etc)

NO interest at all in "Big Law" - had a life-long desire to do PI and perhaps International law (on the Govt or non-profit, pro-human, pro-planet side).

Loyola is highly ranked by National Jurist for PI - way above many others.

Emory is in the top 25 and has pretty much been there for 4 years except for one odd slip to 30. Its also in Atlanta where the job market is supposedly less saturated than LA.

I'd prefer to be in CA, but don't mind working in GA.

What are your thoughts on this?
Money?

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:26 pm
by flem
That's great you don't want biglaw. Is your total debt going to be under 90K for either? Because otherwise, you're gonna need that biglaw money bruh.

If you're independently wealthy disregard this question.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:28 pm
by flem
Also the Atlanta market remains a shitstorm where firms are beholden to grades and prestige, for what that's worth. It isn't some unsaturated, untapped jobs paradise where jobs grow on trees.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:29 pm
by Danteshek
Love that Paul Campos was the first person to post a response :lol:

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:38 pm
by emola
Paul Campos wrote:
emola wrote:Hi all,

I just (minutes ago) got admitted to Emory law.

I had decided to go to Loyola (I live near LA, but would have to move closer to Loyola as commuting would be anywhere from 1 to 2+ hours each way depending on traffic, daily accidents, etc)

NO interest at all in "Big Law" - had a life-long desire to do PI and perhaps International law (on the Govt or non-profit, pro-human, pro-planet side).

Loyola is highly ranked by National Jurist for PI - way above many others.

Emory is in the top 25 and has pretty much been there for 4 years except for one odd slip to 30. Its also in Atlanta where the job market is supposedly less saturated than LA.

I'd prefer to be in CA, but don't mind working in GA.

What are your thoughts on this?
Money?



Emory $18/yr (total $54k)

Loyola $5k/yr (total $15k)

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:41 pm
by flem
emola wrote:



Emory $18/yr (total $54k)

Loyola $5k/yr (total $15k)
What's your total COA? Financing living expenses?

I don't know what to make of these figures. Loyola is only 5K a year? Or that's the scholarship amount?

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:58 pm
by emola
Scholarship money - thought that's what Paul Campos had asked.

I'm willing to borrow the balance, and am trying to decide on which of the 2 is a better bet for a job in the areas I'd mentioned.
I know its a millstone, but many of my colleagues over the years seem to be surviving and still look happy.
So right now its #24 or #51 (per the dreaded US News) for a job in 2015.

Thanks

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:00 pm
by rad lulz
You're not gonna get a job in international PI.

HTH

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:05 pm
by Nelson
emola wrote: Emory $18/yr (total $54k)

Loyola $5k/yr (total $15k)
Neither school is worth that much money. You would have to be absolutely insane to pay almost 200k for Loyola.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:57 pm
by flem
200K for Loyola is insanity. Emory at that price is less insane as it has a great rep in the southeast (Atlanta specifically) but that's still a little pricey.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:00 pm
by rad lulz
tfleming09 wrote:200K for Loyola is insanity. Emory at that price is less insane as it has a great rep in the southeast (Atlanta specifically) but that's still a little pricey.
I honestly wouldn't go to either. Emory for $150k is too expensive. Loyola is even worse. Emory is OP's best, albeit excessively mediocre, option.

Retake is in order.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:01 pm
by flem
rad lulz wrote: I honestly wouldn't go to either. Emory for $150k is too expensive. Loyola is even worse. Emory is OP's best, albeit excessively mediocre, option.

Retake is in order.
Concurring

What's your GPA/LSAT bruh

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:29 pm
by romothesavior
Do you have substantial prior PI experience? That can be a huge factor in PI jobs. Probably as hard or harder to get than biglaw these days.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:40 am
by emola
Yes, 12 years in a non-lawyer capacity, at 3 different PI firms.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:36 am
by RedBirds2011
emola wrote:Yes, 12 years in a non-lawyer capacity, at 3 different PI firms.
I'm no expert in PI, but that's sounds pretty damn substantial. You probably do have a good chance at PI with that kind of experience.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:40 am
by flem
RedBirds2011 wrote:
emola wrote:Yes, 12 years in a non-lawyer capacity, at 3 different PI firms.
I'm no expert in PI, but that's sounds pretty damn substantial. You probably do have a good chance at PI with that kind of experience.
Probably. But at these prices it's still too much of a gamble to rely on that outcome.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:36 pm
by Danteshek
Happy to discuss Loyola offline. I'm graduating in 3 weeks.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:00 am
by john1990
emory is known for international law

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:22 am
by romothesavior
john1990 wrote:emory is known for international law
orly

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:02 am
by CanadianWolf
Before deciding, ask Loyola to increase your scholarship offer based on Emory's offer.

Re: Emory or Loyola

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:55 am
by flem
john1990 wrote:emory is known for international law
I like that you put blinders on for you schools that you are accepted to