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GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:03 pm
by mrec
NW is also giving me a year off to work. I'd like to one day maybe join a think tank for policy decision making. What do you think?

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:04 pm
by bk1
Other than the "one day" and "maybe"... what do you want to do?

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:07 pm
by mrec
bk187 wrote:Other than the "one day" and "maybe"... what do you want to do?
ha touche`. i'm leaning towards policy work, want to get involved with financial regulation and markets (finance/accounting undergrad).

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:09 pm
by Excellent117
Well, GULC is only a few blocks from K-street as well as the various entities that are in charge of financial regulations for what it's worth...

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:11 pm
by moneybagsphd
Excellent117 wrote:Well, GULC is only a few blocks from K-street as well as the various entities that are in charge of financial regulations for what it's worth...
I'll tell you what it's not worth: passing up a Harvard Law degree.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:13 pm
by mrec
moneybagsphd wrote:
Excellent117 wrote:Well, GULC is only a few blocks from K-street as well as the various entities that are in charge of financial regulations for what it's worth...
I'll tell you what it's not worth: passing up a Harvard Law degree.
even with no aid from HLS? is the quality of the education that much different?

also, does anyone know anything about GULC's curriculum B? I'm pretty interested.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:14 pm
by 09042014
moneybagsphd wrote:
Excellent117 wrote:Well, GULC is only a few blocks from K-street as well as the various entities that are in charge of financial regulations for what it's worth...
I'll tell you what it's not worth: passing up a Harvard Law degree.
120K probably is.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:15 pm
by bk1
You seem like you have no clue what you want to do and don't really have a set plan. HLS seems like it would keep those options as open as possible.

I'd probably take the money if it were me.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:16 pm
by enigmabk
HLS unless full ride at those other schools

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:18 pm
by rayiner
Desert Fox wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
Excellent117 wrote:Well, GULC is only a few blocks from K-street as well as the various entities that are in charge of financial regulations for what it's worth...
I'll tell you what it's not worth: passing up a Harvard Law degree.
120K probably is.
For policy work?

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:20 pm
by SaintFond
mrec wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
Excellent117 wrote:Well, GULC is only a few blocks from K-street as well as the various entities that are in charge of financial regulations for what it's worth...
I'll tell you what it's not worth: passing up a Harvard Law degree.
even with no aid from HLS? is the quality of the education that much different?

also, does anyone know anything about GULC's curriculum B? I'm pretty interested.
The quality of education is probably not that much different, but there is a major difference in prestttige.

Isn't 50K/yr from NW essentially full ride? Aside from CoL?

Tough decision. I guess it depends upon how much you want to avoid debt and how much prestige matters to you.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:22 pm
by kaiser
Take the $$. Harvard is awesome, but not an extra $120-$150K awesome

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:25 pm
by mrec
enigmabk wrote:HLS unless full ride at those other schools
any objective criteria? is all the hype around hls mostly hype, or is it worth something?

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:27 pm
by Geil
With a full ride from NW, this shouldn't even be close! - hope you like Chicago!

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:30 pm
by SaintFond
mrec wrote:
enigmabk wrote:HLS unless full ride at those other schools
any objective criteria? is all the hype around hls mostly hype, or is it worth something?
The hype itself is something to consider. If you tell people you went to HLS, they will probably get all wide eyed with wonder.

Though with that said, NW has some of the highest current placement rates, so your odds of coming out of there and getting a good job pretty quick (with very low debt) are good.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:32 pm
by 09042014
rayiner wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
moneybagsphd wrote:
Excellent117 wrote:Well, GULC is only a few blocks from K-street as well as the various entities that are in charge of financial regulations for what it's worth...
I'll tell you what it's not worth: passing up a Harvard Law degree.
120K probably is.
For policy work?
Eh, he sounds so vague, I'm guessing he winds up in Big law anyway. He said "maybe, one day."

If he was serious, I think it would depend how connected he was. If networks the shit out of his time in DC, Gtown might be worth it. If he were totally fucking committed to policy work I'd imagine Harvard. From what I hear, policy people don't go to the Kennedy school because they lose 2 years of networking. I'd imagine the best course might be going part time (if GULC lets you convert to PT with DAT CASH) and trying to weasel your way into good internships.

But does anyone on TLS have any idea? YHS pwning the shit out of everyone in policy is something I hear on TLS but I've never seen a source for it. It could be true but who knows.

But I doubt this guy actually ends up in policy.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:34 pm
by roaringeagle
make a poll so people can vote

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:36 pm
by kaiser
roaringeagle wrote:make a poll so people can vote
Nah, because then you will just get 0L's voting for the highest ranked school without rationale, and current students telling him its smarter to take the money here. Better to just have actual posts with people explaining their input.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:45 pm
by roaringeagle
kaiser wrote:
roaringeagle wrote:make a poll so people can vote
Nah, because then you will just get 0L's voting for the highest ranked school without rationale, and current students telling him its smarter to take the money here. Better to just have actual posts with people explaining their input.

I disagree. Besides many people vote and comment. I found my poll to be informative. OP, congratulations. You have awesome choices. I voted Harvard because I think that would open more doors to you down the road in the field you are interested in.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:24 am
by Doorkeeper
Desert Fox wrote:From what I hear, policy people don't go to the Kennedy school because they lose 2 years of networking. I'd imagine the best course might be going part time (if GULC lets you convert to PT with DAT CASH) and trying to weasel your way into good internships.

But does anyone on TLS have any idea? YHS pwning the shit out of everyone in policy is something I hear on TLS but I've never seen a source for it. It could be true but who knows.

But I doubt this guy actually ends up in policy.
First off, the bolded is not true. KSG MPPs walk around DC by the dozen, and for many the MPP is actually a way to diversify their connections. Many people go into the KSG MPP already with a career, so it's a whole new set of people for them to meet with and such.

This being said, policy people in DC have all sorts of T14 degrees. Some of the people I work closest with went to Penn, Georgetown, and Michigan. Getting a policy job in DC is much more about connections than it is about the name of your degree (of course the school that the degree is from can help you to get connections). Considering the scholarship money, I would probably go Georgetown or Northwestern here for the debt relief. Maybe Georgetown if the OP is really assertive and would be willing to spend his/her 3 years in DC networking the fuck out of the city. This being said, I could totally understand the OP going Harvard here, especially if he/she gets a good financial aid package.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:57 am
by concurrent fork
Great options to have -- I don't think there's a wrong choice as between HLS and NW. That said, I'm confused by the "HLS definitely isn't worth 120K more" responses. Doesn't everyone who has #s for HLS also get significant $$ to lower T14s? Since HLS doesn't give merit aid, that would mean no one should go to HLS unless their familial income is low enough for need grants.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:38 pm
by Doorkeeper
concurrent fork wrote:Great options to have -- I don't think there's a wrong choice as between HLS and NW. That said, I'm confused by the "HLS definitely isn't worth 120K more" responses. Doesn't everyone who has #s for HLS also get significant $$ to lower T14s? Since HLS doesn't give merit aid, that would mean no one should go to HLS unless their familial income is low enough for need grants.
...or if their family is paying for a significant amount of law school, which I'm sure is the case for many HLS students.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:08 pm
by concurrent fork
Doorkeeper wrote:
concurrent fork wrote:Great options to have -- I don't think there's a wrong choice as between HLS and NW. That said, I'm confused by the "HLS definitely isn't worth 120K more" responses. Doesn't everyone who has #s for HLS also get significant $$ to lower T14s? Since HLS doesn't give merit aid, that would mean no one should go to HLS unless their familial income is low enough for need grants.
...or if their family is paying for a significant amount of law school, which I'm sure is the case for many HLS students.
Why is it more likely that someone's family is paying for HLS as opposed to any other top school?

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:10 pm
by flem
Take 150K at Northwestern with the added preftige that you turned down Harvard.

Re: GULC (40k/yr.); NW (50k/yr.); HLS (0)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:13 pm
by Doorkeeper
concurrent fork wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
concurrent fork wrote:Great options to have -- I don't think there's a wrong choice as between HLS and NW. That said, I'm confused by the "HLS definitely isn't worth 120K more" responses. Doesn't everyone who has #s for HLS also get significant $$ to lower T14s? Since HLS doesn't give merit aid, that would mean no one should go to HLS unless their familial income is low enough for need grants.
...or if their family is paying for a significant amount of law school, which I'm sure is the case for many HLS students.
Why is it more likely that someone's family is paying for HLS as opposed to any other top school?
For the same reason that more students at Ivy UGs aren't on financial aid than at your local state school, their parents can take the financial hit, so they're encouraged to attend.