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Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:34 pm
by American_in_China
Before everyone just blurts out Chicago- I (80-90%) want to work in my home market (Nashville) when I practice, but I am gunning for clerking/DOJ. I know Chicago definitely gives me a leg up there.
As to my home market, the lawyers I know all say top 50% at Mich, but 70% at Chicago. I also have a lot of connections, so I could even push those envelopes (though I obviously hope to end up higher).

Keep in mind that if I practice in Nashville, market is 110K, so more debt will take even longer to pay off. That 45K is basically a year or two of extra payments.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:40 pm
by bk1
Vandy with a large scholarship isn't an option?

That other 10-20% of the time, what do you want to do and where?

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:45 pm
by rad lulz
American_in_China wrote: Keep in mind that if I practice in Nashville, market is 120K
Dawg $110k at Bass, Bradley, MGLAW, and H3GM. Miller Martin is at $109k

Waller is at $100k

FBT and Stites Harbison are less than $100k

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:59 pm
by American_in_China
bk187 wrote:Vandy with a large scholarship isn't an option?

That other 10-20% of the time, what do you want to do and where?
Withdrew; they offered me same scholarship amount as Mich. Still would have been a little bit less to attend Vandy, but an extra 15K over three years wasn't worth the drop.

Clerking/DOJ work into appellate or high end bankruptcy practice. Basically pure federal litigation work.
I.e. that 20% of the time is if I make the top 20% of the class and it's possible for me to do it. And margin for error if I get into another area of practice that I can't really do in Nashville.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:00 pm
by American_in_China
rad lulz wrote:
American_in_China wrote: Keep in mind that if I practice in Nashville, market is 120K
Dawg $110k at Bass, Bradley, MGLAW, and H3GM. Miller Martin is at $109k

Waller is at $100k

FBT and Stites Harbison are less than $100k
W/e. Thanks for quibbling instead of actually expressing an opinion. I'll edit the original post.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:08 pm
by rad lulz
Whelp the amount of money you can expect to make should be relevant when considering loan repayment.

I'd dislike paying back $200k+ from Chi on $110, but it's not that different from the debt at Mich. I'd go to Chi, which will open up more non-Nashville markets in case Nashville firms don't work out. It's a REALLY small market.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:44 pm
by cjcregg
rad lulz wrote:Whelp the amount of money you can expect to make should be relevant when considering loan repayment.

I'd dislike paying back $200k+ from Chi on $110, but it's not that different from the debt at Mich. I'd go to Chi, which will open up more non-Nashville markets in case Nashville firms don't work out. It's a REALLY small market.
Chicago opens wide all doors outside of Nashville including clerkships. Clerkships are also included in Chicago's LRAP. I don't think this is a difficult decision.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:54 pm
by 09042014
How confident are you about those 50% at Mich, 70% at Uchi? If they are accurate, Uchi.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:55 pm
by rad lulz
Desert Fox wrote:How confident are you about those 50% at Mich, 70% at Uchi? If they are accurate, Uchi.
It might help in Nashville that they probably have no idea how to read a UChi transcript.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:04 pm
by Dany
rad lulz wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:How confident are you about those 50% at Mich, 70% at Uchi? If they are accurate, Uchi.
It might help in Nashville that they probably have no idea how to read a UChi transcript.
I sincerely hope this turns out to be true.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:05 pm
by rad lulz
Dany wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:How confident are you about those 50% at Mich, 70% at Uchi? If they are accurate, Uchi.
It might help in Nashville that they probably have no idea how to read a UChi transcript.
I sincerely hope this turns out to be true.
Wut is a 173? Is that like an LSAT?

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:11 pm
by American_in_China
cjcregg wrote:
rad lulz wrote:Whelp the amount of money you can expect to make should be relevant when considering loan repayment.

I'd dislike paying back $200k+ from Chi on $110, but it's not that different from the debt at Mich. I'd go to Chi, which will open up more non-Nashville markets in case Nashville firms don't work out. It's a REALLY small market.
Chicago opens wide all doors outside of Nashville including clerkships. Clerkships are also included in Chicago's LRAP. I don't think this is a difficult decision.
Are they not included in Mich's LRAP? I have to admit I'm unfamiliar with the details.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:12 pm
by American_in_China
Desert Fox wrote:How confident are you about those 50% at Mich, 70% at Uchi? If they are accurate, Uchi.
Heard it from two partners here in Nashville, both of whom participate in the hiring process at their firms.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:15 pm
by cjcregg
American_in_China wrote:
cjcregg wrote:
rad lulz wrote:Whelp the amount of money you can expect to make should be relevant when considering loan repayment.

I'd dislike paying back $200k+ from Chi on $110, but it's not that different from the debt at Mich. I'd go to Chi, which will open up more non-Nashville markets in case Nashville firms don't work out. It's a REALLY small market.
Chicago opens wide all doors outside of Nashville including clerkships. Clerkships are also included in Chicago's LRAP. I don't think this is a difficult decision.
Are they not included in Mich's LRAP? I have to admit I'm unfamiliar with the details.
I'm pretty sure they're excluded.

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Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:57 pm
by titan747
You should have given Vanderbilt your Michigan offer and asked them to "make it worth it" for you to attend.

Re: Chicago ($0) v. Michigan (45K), unique situation

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:39 pm
by American_in_China
titan747 wrote:You should have given Vanderbilt your Michigan offer and asked them to "make it worth it" for you to attend.
Did, they refused.