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Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:33 pm
by HelloMoto27
Hey everyone, so it seems like I've eliminated my choices to these two schools, however I'm heavily leaning towards one right now.

I received 15k/yr with a 2.5 GPA stip at Temple with out of state tuition. and 20k/yr with a 3.0 GPA stip at Penn State. My family will be paying, so I'm grateful that I will not have personal debt when I graduate. Of course, I'd want to lower the costs as much as possible for my parents.

I'm from New Jersey, looking to get into health law/policy in the future. I know I'm not realistically looking at biglaw from either of these two schools, and I'm fine with that. If it does happen, with one of the Philadelphia biglaw firms, then that's fine too. I also realize that I'd most likely be confined to the PA/NJ area (with a slight possibility of NYC), but I've been living in Philadelphia for a little while now, and I wouldn't at all mind staying for a bit.

I've gotten into both Rutgers Camden and Newark, but am not leaning towards attending either right now.

The CoA for both seems to be nearly identical for Temple and Penn State, so I'm looking for some confirmation of my mindset at the moment without my biases. Thanks so much!

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:42 pm
by The Rover
If you want Philly, then Temple. Sounds like the stipulation is better too.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:49 pm
by dissonance1848
Retake. Besides that, get those stips removed.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:54 pm
by top30man
dissonance1848 wrote:Retake. Besides that, get those stips removed.
Essentially this. Try to get the stips removed if you don't want to retake. Temple is the much better option.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:59 pm
by The Rover
I don't agree with telling people to retake when we don't even know what their numbers are. How do we know he didn't severely under-perform his numbers for one reason or another? Maybe he is an extreme splitter?

That being said, OP what are your GPA / LSAT?

Also, what is your total cost of attendance at Temple?

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:39 am
by Justathought
My experience at Temple has been amazing so far, and I think most of my friends feel the same way. Temple has an outstanding rep in Philly, which at least gives you an edge in a sizable legal community. Oh, and Temple also feeds really well into Wilmington, DE - which I'm told is not a bad place to practice. If costs are equal, and you don't have an aversion to big city life, I'd recommend going to Temple.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:01 am
by CanadianWolf
Temple.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:05 am
by 2014
Temple fo sho

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:17 am
by flem
HelloMoto27 wrote:
The CoA for both seems to be nearly identical for Temple and Penn State
That's great, what is the actual CoA though?

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:02 pm
by HelloMoto27
tfleming09 wrote:
HelloMoto27 wrote:
The CoA for both seems to be nearly identical for Temple and Penn State
That's great, what is the actual CoA though?
CoA would be a little under ~25k/yr, housing/utilities included.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:03 pm
by flem
HelloMoto27 wrote:
tfleming09 wrote:
HelloMoto27 wrote:
The CoA for both seems to be nearly identical for Temple and Penn State
That's great, what is the actual CoA though?
CoA would be a little under ~25k/yr, housing/utilities included.
Not bad. Temple then. Good luck sir!

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:06 pm
by HelloMoto27
tfleming09 wrote:
HelloMoto27 wrote:
tfleming09 wrote:
HelloMoto27 wrote:
The CoA for both seems to be nearly identical for Temple and Penn State
That's great, what is the actual CoA though?
CoA would be a little under ~25k/yr, housing/utilities included.
Not bad. Temple then. Good luck sir!
Thanks! And just to clarify, Temple if costs are roughly equal for both?

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:08 pm
by flem
HelloMoto27 wrote:
Thanks! And just to clarify, Temple if costs are roughly equal for both?
Yes

Especially considering this 2010 employment data showing only 50% of all PSU grads got any sort of full time employment after law school.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:10 pm
by HelloMoto27
tfleming09 wrote:
HelloMoto27 wrote:
Thanks! And just to clarify, Temple if costs are roughly equal for both?
Yes

Especially considering this 2010 employment data showing only 50% of all PSU grads got any sort of full time employment after law school.
Good god...is that 9 months or at grad?

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:12 pm
by flem
HelloMoto27 wrote:
Good god...is that 9 months or at grad?
Appears to be 9 months, as of 2/15/11 according to the thread.

Either way, fuck that noise bruh

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:45 pm
by crossarmant
If you want a job and want to stick around Philly, go with Temple. They run this town (unless you're one of the 5 people at UPenn who decide not to leave for NYC).

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:27 pm
by Nelson
crossarmant wrote:If you want a job and want to stick around Philly, go with Temple. They run this town (unless you're one of the 5 people at UPenn who decide not to leave for NYC).
Drastic underestimation of the number of Penn kids who stay and overestimation of Temple's placement.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:35 pm
by crossarmant
Nelson wrote:Drastic underestimation of the number of Penn kids who stay and overestimation of Temple's placement.
Yes, exaggeration like everything else on this site. But for the most part Temple runs Philly. Villanova and Rutgers have a little impact, but Temple is for the most part the big placer among schools in the area. The jobs that Temple grads want are jobs that UPenn folks aren't going for so they have a leg up on most the competition. Not saying that Temple is the land of "Milk & Honey" but they do better than other similarly ranked places, and definitely better than Penn State and their "Post-Apocalyptic Central PA" job market.

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:47 pm
by HelloMoto27
This just came as a thought - but does Rutgers Newark not have that much reach into NYC?

(Just trying to finalize some thoughts.)

Re: Temple ($$) vs Penn State ($$)

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:50 pm
by The Rover
HelloMoto27 wrote:This just came as a thought - but does Rutgers Newark not have that much reach into NYC?

(Just trying to finalize some thoughts.)
Is it possible to get NYC from Rutgers?

Yes.

Should you count on getting NYC from Rutgers?

No.