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American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:47 pm
by snapple90
Looking for some advice on where to go to law school. I realize that ls rankings are incredibly important in the legal profession. With that said I can't get over the money offer from Hofstra. Please advise.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:54 pm
by Danteshek
snapple90 wrote:Looking for some advice on where to go to law school. I realize that ls rankings are incredibly important in the legal profession. With that said I can't get over the money offer from Hofstra. Please advise.
I would go to American if I were in your shoes.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:57 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:04 pm
by snapple90
rad lulz wrote:What do you want to do, where do you want to do it, and where do you have ties.

Also any stips?
Born and raised in Long Island. As of right now I have a public leaning. However, that is -like anything- susceptible to change. I understand income based repayment (as well as loan forgiveness) makes a public sector job feasible while still attending American. With that said, if my interests change I wouldn't be given the same opportunities. I have worked in congressional offices in LI, these offices also have a base in DC.

What do you mean by stips?

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:05 pm
by top30man
rad lulz wrote:What do you want to do, where do you want to do it, and where do you have ties.

Also any stips?
Also how much money from American?

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:05 pm
by snapple90
top30man wrote:
rad lulz wrote:What do you want to do, where do you want to do it, and where do you have ties.

Also any stips?
Also how much money from American?
7k first year.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:16 pm
by top30man
snapple90 wrote:
top30man wrote:
rad lulz wrote:What do you want to do, where do you want to do it, and where do you have ties.

Also any stips?
Also how much money from American?
7k first year.
In that case I'd go hofstra. Especially since you're from the area.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:20 pm
by Geist13
7k from american shouldn't even count as a scholarship. Have you looked at the total cost of attendance at that school? its well over 200K. Hofstra easily. Although you shouldn't attend either.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:23 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:23 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:24 pm
by snapple90
40th percentile

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:25 pm
by top30man
snapple90 wrote:40th percentile
That's a harsh stipulation. Would you be ok dropping out if you lose the money? If not, I'd retake.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:28 pm
by snapple90
top30man wrote:
snapple90 wrote:40th percentile
That's a harsh stipulation. Would you be ok dropping out if you lose the money? If not, I'd retake.
I'd prefer not to. Are the job prospects at American that bad?

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:28 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:30 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:34 pm
by top30man
rad lulz wrote:
snapple90 wrote:Are the job prospects at American that bad?
Not nearly good enough to justify the loans you will take. That level of debt almost necessitates big law to pay it off in a timely fashion. Big law chances are sliiiim. Most likely non-biglaw outcome is $50k (bimodal distribution of first year salaries). You will hate your life.
Yeah American is not worth that amount. I'd either go to hofstra and leave if you lose the scholarship or retake. DC is a really overcrowded market. GW is not worth going to without very significant $$$. Let alone catholic American gmu etc.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:10 pm
by snapple90
rad lulz wrote:
snapple90 wrote:Are the job prospects at American that bad?
Not nearly good enough to justify the loans you will take. That level of debt almost necessitates big law to pay it off in a timely fashion. Big law chances are sliiiim. Most likely non-biglaw outcome is $50k (bimodal distribution of first year salaries). You will hate your life.
If I'm making 50k in the public sector -with income based repayment options- wouldn't that put me at around 500 dollars repayment a month?

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:11 pm
by bk1
snapple90 wrote:If I'm making 50k in the public sector -with income based repayment options- wouldn't that put me at around 500 dollars repayment a month?
Public sector work is hard to get.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:12 pm
by snapple90
bk187 wrote:
snapple90 wrote:If I'm making 50k in the public sector -with income based repayment options- wouldn't that put me at around 500 dollars repayment a month?
Public sector work is hard to get.
501c3 included?

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:15 pm
by bk1
snapple90 wrote:501cr included?
501c3? Yes. They guarantee people freedom from debt after 10 years via PSLF and they rare, that means they end up pretty competitive (on top of the fact that the bleeding heart types already want to do them).

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:16 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:19 pm
by snapple90
Also, from American, just legal work in general is not assured.

In 2010 only 65.4% of those reporting got bar passage required jobs. Also these jokers didn't say what percentage reported. Shady as hell.
65.4% of those passing the bar required jobs?

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:24 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:24 pm
by bk1
snapple90 wrote:65.4% of those passing the bar required jobs?
65.4% of the percentage of American grads that actually reported their job status, got jobs that required passing the bar. Meaning at least 34.6% of American grads do not get jobs as lawyers.

Re: American (WCL)$$ v. Hofstra Law (Full ride)

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:25 pm
by rad lulz
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