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Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:51 pm
by JVN30
I have been accepted to New Hampshire School of Law, St. Louis Law, Syracuse, Rutgers-Newark and have been wait listed at Oklahoma, Hofstra, and Marquette. I was wondering if anyone could lend their opinions on what the best school would be, as far as money is concerned UNH has offered me 15k but other then that not many scholarships. I appreciate your advice
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:59 pm
by chiwachiwa
Don't go to any of these schools. If you must, go where you get scholarship money.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:00 pm
by JVN30
chiwachiwa wrote:Don't go to any of these schools. If you must, go where you get scholarship money.
Why do you say this?
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:03 pm
by chiwachiwa
Which part?
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:10 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
There is a substantial risk you won't be able to find a legal job from any of these schools. It needs to be emphasized that I mean ANY legal job, not just some "models and bottles" biglaw-type job. Many of the students from these schools are strapped with crushing debt and graduate with no job.
Getting a higher score on the LSAT can drastically improve your chances at getting into schools with better placement for graduates. Retaking the LSAT is probably the best advice you can get from TLS.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:18 pm
by bdole2
JVN30 wrote:I have been accepted to New Hampshire School of Law, St. Louis Law, Syracuse, Rutgers-Newark and have been wait listed at Oklahoma, Hofstra, and Marquette. I was wondering if anyone could lend their opinions on what the best school would be, as far as money is concerned UNH has offered me 15k but other then that not many scholarships. I appreciate your advice
Where are you from? These schools are all very local.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:22 pm
by Scottie2Hottie
I know, personally, people from syracuse doing well, as well as, RU-N that do well in North Jersey/New York. Plus- you can get RU-N in state scholly all 3 years bc it is almost as easy as saying you live in NJ to admissions face-to-face
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:28 pm
by JVN30
bdole2 wrote:JVN30 wrote:I have been accepted to New Hampshire School of Law, St. Louis Law, Syracuse, Rutgers-Newark and have been wait listed at Oklahoma, Hofstra, and Marquette. I was wondering if anyone could lend their opinions on what the best school would be, as far as money is concerned UNH has offered me 15k but other then that not many scholarships. I appreciate your advice
Where are you from? These schools are all very local.
I grew up in Oklahoma and know a lot of people there, I went Stony Brook for my undergrad on Long Island, and right now am living in New Hampshire
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:31 pm
by chiwachiwa
Scottie2Hottie wrote:I know, personally, people from syracuse doing well, as well as, RU-N that do well in North Jersey/New York. Plus- you can get RU-N in state scholly all 3 years bc it is almost as easy as saying you live in NJ to admissions face-to-face
Define "doing well"
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:32 pm
by chiwachiwa
JVN30 wrote:bdole2 wrote:JVN30 wrote:I have been accepted to New Hampshire School of Law, St. Louis Law, Syracuse, Rutgers-Newark and have been wait listed at Oklahoma, Hofstra, and Marquette. I was wondering if anyone could lend their opinions on what the best school would be, as far as money is concerned UNH has offered me 15k but other then that not many scholarships. I appreciate your advice
Where are you from? These schools are all very local.
I grew up in Oklahoma and know a lot of people there, I went Stony Brook for my undergrad on Long Island, and right now am living in New Hampshire
Decide where you want to work after LS. Go to school there. None of these schools will place outside their immediate geographic region.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:40 pm
by noleknight16
Syracuse is the best school on your list. You better be prepared to live in northern New York for the long haul and the chances of not getting a very good job, if any, are very very real.
Retake if possible
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:42 pm
by tennisking88
Scottie2Hottie wrote:I know, personally, people from syracuse doing well, as well as, RU-N that do well in North Jersey/New York. Plus- you can get RU-N in state scholly all 3 years bc it is almost as easy as saying you live in NJ to admissions face-to-face
Really hate these anecdotal success stories that give hope to people who in reality have a small chance of replicating said success.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:04 pm
by JVN30
noleknight16 wrote:Syracuse is the best school on your list. You better be prepared to live in northern New York for the long haul and the chances of not getting a very good job, if any, are very very real.
Retake if possible
I disagree with this and I know I asked for opinions but OU is ranked much better then Syracuse, is much cheaper (Syracuse would run me 60k a year), and I worked in a successful medical malpractice firm in OKC which was made up of OU graduates.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:07 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
What's your GPA/LSAT? Any reason why retake is not an option?
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:17 pm
by Scottie2Hottie
chiwachiwa wrote:Scottie2Hottie wrote:I know, personally, people from syracuse doing well, as well as, RU-N that do well in North Jersey/New York. Plus- you can get RU-N in state scholly all 3 years bc it is almost as easy as saying you live in NJ to admissions face-to-face
Define "doing well"
Know a Syracuse alum working lit boutique in DC and another who owns his own practice with multiple offices. Also, 3 RU-N grads, one is "Biglaw" and the other 2 work for small firms with average salary, but with instate tuition not a bad deal. Of course they could be lucky (idk where they finished). Any where you go you need to do well, bottom line, if you do well enough at most regional schools and keep your debt low as possible you should be alright.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:27 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
Scottie2Hottie wrote:chiwachiwa wrote:Scottie2Hottie wrote:I know, personally, people from syracuse doing well, as well as, RU-N that do well in North Jersey/New York. Plus- you can get RU-N in state scholly all 3 years bc it is almost as easy as saying you live in NJ to admissions face-to-face
Define "doing well"
Know a Syracuse alum working lit boutique in DC and another who owns his own practice with multiple offices. Also, 3 RU-N grads, one is "Biglaw" and the other 2 work for small firms with average salary, but with instate tuition not a bad deal. Of course they could be lucky (idk where they finished).
Any where you go you need to do well, bottom line, if you do well enough at most regional schools and keep your debt low as possible you should be alright.
This is wrong. You can finish below median at Columbia and the odds are still in your favor for getting biglaw. Compare that to some law schools were you can finish top 10% and still have a very good chance of striking out at OCI.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:30 pm
by Scottie2Hottie
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Scottie2Hottie wrote:chiwachiwa wrote:Scottie2Hottie wrote:I know, personally, people from syracuse doing well, as well as, RU-N that do well in North Jersey/New York. Plus- you can get RU-N in state scholly all 3 years bc it is almost as easy as saying you live in NJ to admissions face-to-face
Define "doing well"
Know a Syracuse alum working lit boutique in DC and another who owns his own practice with multiple offices. Also, 3 RU-N grads, one is "Biglaw" and the other 2 work for small firms with average salary, but with instate tuition not a bad deal. Of course they could be lucky (idk where they finished).
Any where you go you need to do well, bottom line, if you do well enough at most regional schools and keep your debt low as possible you should be alright.
This is wrong. You can finish below median at Columbia and the odds are still in your favor for getting biglaw. Compare that to some law schools were you can finish top 10% and still have a very good chance of striking out at OCI.
didnt mean schools far beyond the level of schools OP is deciding between genius. thanks for stating the obvious though, clears things up
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:32 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
Scottie2Hottie wrote:Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Scottie2Hottie wrote:
Know a Syracuse alum working lit boutique in DC and another who owns his own practice with multiple offices. Also, 3 RU-N grads, one is "Biglaw" and the other 2 work for small firms with average salary, but with instate tuition not a bad deal. Of course they could be lucky (idk where they finished). Any where you go you need to do well, bottom line, if you do well enough at most regional schools and keep your debt low as possible you should be alright.
This is wrong. You can finish below median at Columbia and the odds are still in your favor for getting biglaw. Compare that to some law schools were you can finish top 10% and still have a very good chance of striking out at OCI.
didnt mean schools far beyond the level of schools OP is deciding between genius. thanks for stating the obvious though, clears things up
This is why the advice of "retake," while being repetitive at times, is usually very spot-on. Why? Because OP does not need to be limited to his current list of schools if he puts in the effort to get a higher score!
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:35 pm
by noleknight16
JVN30 wrote:noleknight16 wrote:Syracuse is the best school on your list. You better be prepared to live in northern New York for the long haul and the chances of not getting a very good job, if any, are very very real.
Retake if possible
I disagree with this and I know I asked for opinions but OU is ranked much better then Syracuse, is much cheaper (Syracuse would run me 60k a year), and I worked in a successful medical malpractice firm in OKC which was made up of OU graduates.
You asked for opinions. Yeah, if you want to like in Oklahoma, it's the best choice in your list. Overall, Syracuse is the best school (and that's not saying much).
Oklahoma is ranked 82 and Syracuse is 96. There's really no difference in those rankings so you gotta decide which is better on personal views and desires. You gave none in your post so I applied my own.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:39 pm
by spleenworship
In order, this is what I suggest:
1) retake
2) seriously, retake
3) Oklahoma because you have contacts there (if you get in)
4) Rutgers
5) Syracuse
Ignore the others on your list, and please please please attempt to negotiate for scholarships. Please.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:43 pm
by zanda
spleenworship wrote:In order, this is what I suggest:
1) retake
2) seriously, retake
3) Oklahoma because you have contacts there (if you get in)
4) Rutgers
5) Syracuse
Ignore the others on your list, and please please please attempt to negotiate for scholarships. Please.
I pretty much agree with this, but would have done 3 retakes rather than 2.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:46 pm
by CanadianWolf
Based on your contacts & experience, Oklahoma seems to be the most promising for your future job prospects, in my opinion.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:23 pm
by chiwachiwa
Scottie2Hottie wrote:chiwachiwa wrote:Scottie2Hottie wrote:I know, personally, people from syracuse doing well, as well as, RU-N that do well in North Jersey/New York. Plus- you can get RU-N in state scholly all 3 years bc it is almost as easy as saying you live in NJ to admissions face-to-face
Define "doing well"
Know a Syracuse alum working lit boutique in DC and another who owns his own practice with multiple offices. Also, 3 RU-N grads, one is "Biglaw" and the other 2 work for small firms with average salary, but with instate tuition not a bad deal. Of course they could be lucky (idk where they finished). Any where you go you need to do well, bottom line, if you do well enough at most regional schools and keep your debt low as possible you should be alright.
4 whole people who are doing well, and 2 who are doing average? Where do I sign?
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:38 pm
by MrAnon
This sounds completely directionless. How did you come upon this group of schools? You really need a plan before you set off to law school. There isn't one here.
Re: Opinions on which school is best?
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:38 am
by JasonR
Studying up and retaking is the only intelligent option you have. None of those schools are worth anything close to what you'll pay for them. Your odds of failing to find good work and being financially ruined by crushing debt are very high with any of those schools.