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Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:45 pm
by wfudeacons2005
Here's my situation...
I go to a top 25 USN national university and hold a 3.43/154. Good extracurriculars - congressional internships, cum laude, extensive experience overseas etc. As I wrote in an addendum, the LSAT is a significant issue for me because I have a documented learning disability has garnered me extra-time on every exam since 7th grade and the LSAC, predictably, rejected my request. So as much as I would like my score to go up, it may be somewhat of an impossibility. I put a lot of effort into studying for the test and I ended up having to cancel once and then got a 154 the second time. It is also worth noting that I am in a somewhat fortunate position in that my parents will be giving me a good bit of financial assistance in paying for law school so while I certainly will have debt, I am hoping that help, coupled with likely going part-time will help stagger/offset costs to the point that it will be fairly minimal. Would prefer to be DC and north but I'm open to whatever gives me the best prospects, which is why I applied to a wide range of places. As someone who has been on here a decent amount recently, I am realistic about the job opportunities I face. Just hope to get out with minimal debt and make a decent living someday.
As of right now I have been admitted to:
DePaul (PT)
Seton Hall (PT)
UMaine
UNH - 7,500k non-renewable grant
St. Mary's - 7,500k per year, top 10% stip
Suffolk (PT)
New England Law (PT) - 20,000k per year, 2.5 stip
Campbell
But, perhaps more importantly, I am wait-listed at:
Rutgers-Newark (PT) - In-State Tuition (mother is an adjunct professor at the law school, father is an undergrad alum so this would be a possibility if I committed to going, I think)
UConn (PT)
American (PT)
Temple (PT)
...and still waiting on USF (PT)
Also, any advice on where to deposit in case I don't hear back from my WLs before April 1 would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:50 pm
by bk1
I'd go to Rutgers if you can get in. You face minimal competition (just the other Rutgers and Seton Hall, neither of which will dominate you), it's super cheap, and it's where you're from.
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:54 pm
by Nelson
bk187 wrote:You face minimal competition (just the other Rutgers and Seton Hall, neither of which will dominate you), it's super cheap, and it's where you're from.
I'm not sure where this TLS common knowledge of minimal competition in NJ comes from. The NJ legal market is really saturated for its size (no major cities=no major legal markets). It has three TTs plus all of the people from higher ranked schools who are from NJ and use it as a backup market.
OP you should get some WE before committing to law school.
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:56 pm
by 005618502
bk187 wrote:I'd go to Rutgers if you can get in. You face minimal competition (just the other Rutgers and Seton Hall, neither of which will dominate you), it's super cheap, and it's where you're from.
I agree with this, plus I feel your mom teaching there will give you a leg up as she could give you tips and advice
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:01 pm
by bk1
Nelson wrote:bk187 wrote:You face minimal competition (just the other Rutgers and Seton Hall, neither of which will dominate you), it's super cheap, and it's where you're from.
I'm not sure where this TLS common knowledge of minimal competition in NJ comes from. The NJ legal market is really saturated for its size (no major cities=no major legal markets). It has three TTs plus all of the people from higher ranked schools who are from NJ and use it as a backup market.
OP you should get some WE before committing to law school.
I'm not saying it's a walk in the park, but I think Rutgers is in a better position than schools like the other ones OP listed: DePaul (in an attractive city that has 2 T14's), Suffolk/NELaw (dominated by 2 of the top regional schools, not to mention locals who left for T14's and want to return), American (in a very tough city with tons of schools and dominated by the T14), USF (located next to 2 T14's and in a very desirable city).
At least with Rutgers your school is on even footing with the 2 other schools in the state. You're not going to face a lot of competition with out-of-towners either. And the reasons it's better than something like UNH/UMaine is that it's cheaper (since OP is from NJ), OP has ties to NJ that don't exist in regards to NH/MN, and even if UNH/UMaine have no competition they are markets smaller than even NJ.
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:03 pm
by wfudeacons2005
If I do go the Rutgers route any advice on where I should deposit in case they don't get back to me by April 1? I was thinking about trying to negotiate some kind of scholarship from Seton Hall using what I got from other schools so at least I have certainty about where I am going to be geographically.
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:05 pm
by Nelson
bk187 wrote:Nelson wrote:bk187 wrote:You face minimal competition (just the other Rutgers and Seton Hall, neither of which will dominate you), it's super cheap, and it's where you're from.
I'm not sure where this TLS common knowledge of minimal competition in NJ comes from. The NJ legal market is really saturated for its size (no major cities=no major legal markets). It has three TTs plus all of the people from higher ranked schools who are from NJ and use it as a backup market.
OP you should get some WE before committing to law school.
I'm not saying it's a walk in the park, but I think Rutgers is in a better position than schools like the other ones OP listed: DePaul (in an attractive city that has 2 T14's), Suffolk/NELaw (dominated by 2 of the top regional schools, not to mention locals who left for T14's and want to return), American (in a very tough city with tons of schools and dominated by the T14), USF (located next to 2 T14's and in a very desirable city).
At least with Rutgers your school is on even footing with the 2 other schools in the state. You're not going to face a lot of competition with out-of-towners either. And the reasons it's better than something like UNH/UMaine is that it's cheaper (since OP is from NJ), OP has ties to NJ that don't exist in regards to NH/MN, and even if UNH/UMaine have no competition they are markets smaller than even NJ.
Yeah, you're right it's probably the best option for OP of that list. And at PT it won't be ruinously expensive. But the winning move is not to play.
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:06 pm
by Nelson
wfudeacons2005 wrote:If I do go the Rutgers route any advice on where I should deposit in case they don't get back to me by April 1? I was thinking about trying to negotiate some kind of scholarship from Seton Hall using what I got from other schools so at least I have certainty about where I am going to be geographically.
Seton Hall probably. Can your current job cover tuition on top of living expenses while you're in school? I wouldn't take on any debt to go to Seton Hall.
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:31 pm
by wfudeacons2005
Nelson wrote:wfudeacons2005 wrote:If I do go the Rutgers route any advice on where I should deposit in case they don't get back to me by April 1? I was thinking about trying to negotiate some kind of scholarship from Seton Hall using what I got from other schools so at least I have certainty about where I am going to be geographically.
Seton Hall probably. Can your current job cover tuition on top of living expenses while you're in school? I wouldn't take on any debt to go to Seton Hall.
I realize there is little to no chance of having a job that covers tuition and living expenses at Seton Hall...or at least one that will allow me to devote any time at all to studying. But again, with my parents aid, working, and tuition being spread over 4 years, I am comfortable with a small amount of debt. And, even if I am not able to negotiate some sort of scholarship with them, I would be depositing fully planning on getting into one of RU (hopefully), UConn, Temple, or American.
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:08 pm
by wfudeacons2005
Got into RU-Newark. That effectively rules out the 8 acceptances and 2 of the wait-lists. May hang around on UConn's WL for a bit longer because it's a bit higher ranked and a similarly cost-efficient option after 1L but it certainly looks like RU-N all the way at this point. Thanks for of the advice on this thread...I have looked around here quite a bit these past few months and despite all of the T-14 or you are screwed bashing that goes on, you guys were a real help!
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:46 pm
by spleenworship
NVM... enjoy Rutgers!
Re: Decisions, Decisions
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:07 pm
by justicefishy
Gratz!