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It looks like according to employment data P outperforms the rest of the t7-14.

What are peoples thoughts on this? Is this accurate? The more info people could provide the better.

Admission has two "s"s.

Some of the answer has to do with self-selection into PI for Mich and government for UVA. Peer schools are basically peer.

Why would more M or V students self select into PI than P?

It does seem like Penn outperforms its ranking. Really closer to CCN range than MV in my uneducated opinion. Definitely has certain higher lay prestige, I don't know if or if not that factors in the reasoning for its superior employment numbers.

smokeylarue wrote:It does seem like Penn outperforms its ranking. Really closer to CCN range than MV in my uneducated opinion. Definitely has certain higher lay prestige, I don't know if or if not that factors in the reasoning for its superior employment numbers.

1. Recession hurt BigLaw hiring significantly more in markets other than NYC.
2. P generally attracts more people that want to work in NYC BigLaw then MV.
3. P outperformed MV.

Has nothing to do with "lay prestige" and everything to do with NYC BigLaw. Additionally, M attracts a fuckload of PI people and I assume V attracts gov't people and both of those sectors got slaughtered ITE, whereas Penn is more business + BigLaw focused.

Penn also has a smaller class than either Michigan or Virginia ( I think Penn is around 250-280?), while Michigan and Virginia each have around (350-380?) students. Having nearly 100 fewer students is definitely going to improve a school's employment data at the margins.

Actually it's not just Penn's stats. Schools which feed into big markets (esp. NYC) and which aren't PI-focused have always generally had more impressive employment stats (Penn, Cornell, NU), although Penn probably has had the most shiny of that group.

Peer schools are peer. Penn might give a slight advantage in NYC big law or preftigious firm placement, but it's hard to account for self-selection. I don't think the opportunities for a top 10 student at MVP will be all that different, nor will be the opportunites differ that much for a median student and so on.

TemporarySaint wrote:Peer schools are peer. Penn might give a slight advantage in NYC big law or preftigious firm placement, but it's hard to account for self-selection. I don't think the opportunities for a top 10 student at MVP will be all that different, nor will be the opportunites differ that much for a median student and so on.

shhh dont let the penn students hear you