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Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:16 pm
by SemperLegal
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Voting was/is clear, way too much personal info to leave online.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:42 pm
by SemperLegal
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Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:44 pm
by bigeast03
How much is $$$ and $?

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:45 pm
by bk1
So Cal is a lot cheaper because of the GI bill, right? If Cal is really that much cheaper I think it is hands down Boalt. The only advantage I see for NU is the fact that you would be closer to your wife. But Chicago is far enough away that it's a moot point imo.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:45 pm
by 005618502
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Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:23 pm
by SemperLegal
bigeast03 wrote:How much is $$$ and $?
Probally total indebtedness of 15k-20k@berk and 60k-80k@NU

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:27 pm
by bk1
SemperLegal wrote:
bigeast03 wrote:How much is $$$ and $?
Probally total indebtedness of 15k-20k@berk and 60k-80k@NU
At first glance I would say this is easily Berkeley. After thinking about it, I could see an argument for NU depending on how often you and your wife will be flying back and forth. 40-60k is a lot, but if you guys are flying often I could see an argument that the 3-4 hours each way that you will be saving could make it worth it.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:33 pm
by decaf735
disagree.

i think berkeley is the closest thing to the obvious choice here.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:34 pm
by SemperLegal
bk187 wrote:
At first glance I would say this is easily Berkeley. After thinking about it, I could see an argument for NU depending on how often you and your wife will be flying back and forth. 40-60k is a lot, but if you guys are flying often I could see an argument that the 3-4 hours each way that you will be saving could make it worth it.
The other issue is that I feel, perhaps without justification, that NU has a wider reach, making it easier for me to find Biglaw in whatever city she ends up in. Not sure how flexible her "OCI" is, her school is lower ranked, but doctors are in demand. Can't find a good version of TLS or NALP for doctor's.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:39 pm
by 09042014
bk187 wrote:
SemperLegal wrote:
bigeast03 wrote:How much is $$$ and $?
Probally total indebtedness of 15k-20k@berk and 60k-80k@NU
At first glance I would say this is easily Berkeley. After thinking about it, I could see an argument for NU depending on how often you and your wife will be flying back and forth. 40-60k is a lot, but if you guys are flying often I could see an argument that the 3-4 hours each way that you will be saving could make it worth it.
My gf is in DC, and the flights aren't that bad. But Chicago to SF flights are like 5 hours. I imagine SF to East Coast is at least 6.

But, realistically, they are only going to fly back at forth maybe 5-7 times during school. You are talking about 25-35 hours extra flight time for 40-60 grand? WORTH IT. Especially since he can work or sleep on the flights.

And there is like a 40% chance his wife will fuck some other dude anyway. No reason to throw the money away.

Though I encourage you to try to negotiate with northwestern's financial aid people. They may meet the difference.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:41 pm
by 005618502
SemperLegal wrote:
bk187 wrote:
At first glance I would say this is easily Berkeley. After thinking about it, I could see an argument for NU depending on how often you and your wife will be flying back and forth. 40-60k is a lot, but if you guys are flying often I could see an argument that the 3-4 hours each way that you will be saving could make it worth it.
The other issue is that I feel, perhaps without justification, that NU has a wider reach, making it easier for me to find Biglaw in whatever city she ends up in. Not sure how flexible her "OCI" is, her school is lower ranked, but doctors are in demand. Can't find a good version of TLS or NALP for doctor's.
I disagree. I think that your wife having a job there is significant ties. Berkeley has a strong reputation even though some hate on them here. They are often thought to have the best public law school (even though Michigan is not higher ranked). I think that name will travel just fine with the right ties. Berkeley with 15K or less in debt is an obvious answer in my book. I wish I had that option and I got a small scholly in the T14 I just found out

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
by 005618502
whoops

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:43 pm
by 005618502
Desert Fox wrote:
bk187 wrote:
SemperLegal wrote:
bigeast03 wrote:How much is $$$ and $?
Probally total indebtedness of 15k-20k@berk and 60k-80k@NU
At first glance I would say this is easily Berkeley. After thinking about it, I could see an argument for NU depending on how often you and your wife will be flying back and forth. 40-60k is a lot, but if you guys are flying often I could see an argument that the 3-4 hours each way that you will be saving could make it worth it.
My gf is in DC, and the flights aren't that bad. But Chicago to SF flights are like 5 hours. I imagine SF to East Coast is at least 6.

But, realistically, they are only going to fly back at forth maybe 5-7 times during school. You are talking about 25-35 hours extra flight time for 40-60 grand? WORTH IT. Especially since he can work or sleep on the flights.

And there is like a 40% chance his wife will fuck some other dude anyway. No reason to throw the money away.

Though I encourage you to try to negotiate with northwestern's financial aid people. They may meet the difference.
Dont. You dont know their specific situation.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:43 pm
by 09042014
I think your bigger problem is that you'll have to know where your wife is going to work by August 2013. Is she going to know where her residency is by then?

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:45 pm
by SemperLegal
Desert Fox wrote: And there is like a 40% chance his wife will fuck some other dude anyway. No reason to throw the money away.
She has had 2+ years of my absence to do so already and hasn't, so at this point her sunken costs are probally too large.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:49 pm
by 09042014
SemperLegal wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: And there is like a 40% chance his wife will fuck some other dude anyway. No reason to throw the money away.
She has had 2+ years of my absence to do so already and hasn't, so at this point her sunken costs are probally too large.
You should probably let her make the call about whether being 5 hours further away is a big deal. SOunds like she earned that.

What I forgot to consider was time zones. The flying isn't a problem, but being 3 hours behind will make talking on the phone a lot harder. Especially when you both will have limited time.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:50 pm
by SemperLegal
Desert Fox wrote:I think your bigger problem is that you'll have to know where your wife is going to work by August 2013. Is she going to know where her residency is by then?
Nope.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:03 pm
by Hjones33
Desert Fox wrote:
SemperLegal wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: And there is like a 40% chance his wife will fuck some other dude anyway. No reason to throw the money away.
She has had 2+ years of my absence to do so already and hasn't, so at this point her sunken costs are probally too large.
You should probably let her make the call about whether being 5 hours further away is a big deal. SOunds like she earned that.

What I forgot to consider was time zones. The flying isn't a problem, but being 3 hours behind will make talking on the phone a lot harder. Especially when you both will have limited time.
Very, very true. It sounds a lot easier than it actually is. And everyone thinks they are different but make sure you keep this in your mind if you have never experienced this before.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:15 pm
by rklafehn
I would say Berk because it has better weather and is cheaper although it seems as if its biglaw placement lags behind the rest of the T13 because of its location. However, not sure if the difference is worth the difference in COA the two schools.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:18 pm
by SemperLegal
Hjones33 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
SemperLegal wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: And there is like a 40% chance his wife will fuck some other dude anyway. No reason to throw the money away.
She has had 2+ years of my absence to do so already and hasn't, so at this point her sunken costs are probally too large.
You should probably let her make the call about whether being 5 hours further away is a big deal. SOunds like she earned that.

What I forgot to consider was time zones. The flying isn't a problem, but being 3 hours behind will make talking on the phone a lot harder. Especially when you both will have limited time.
I currently am 6-9 time zones away from her, depending on the day of the week.


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Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:33 pm
by CanadianWolf
Did you apply to Penn, NYU &/or Columbia?

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:53 pm
by SemperLegal
CanadianWolf wrote:Did you apply to Penn, NYU &/or Columbia?
Out at all three.

Re: Berk$$$ or NU$

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:31 pm
by CanadianWolf
Same for Virginia & Duke ? If so, your remaining choices are outstanding. I'd lean toward Northwestern in your situation due to travel time & time zone differences pointed out above in addition to the higher liklihood of East Coast or Chicago employment.
Visit both law schools & your choice should be much easier, in my opinion.