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Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:08 pm
by jediknight2424
If no scholarship at either school, is one clearly better than the other?

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:12 pm
by Tim0thy222
Everything I've read on this site suggests that UVA significantly outplaces Georgetown everywhere, even in DC.

Also, Law School Transparency and the NLJ 250 placement statistics suggest that UVA outplaces Georgetown for biglaw and clerkships.

So if you can get into UVA, I don't see what the advantage to Georgetown would be.

Curious about this as well though, since my knowledge is limited.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:12 pm
by johansantana21
UVA obviously. Beats Georgetown at everything that matters.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:05 pm
by top30man
johansantana21 wrote:UVA obviously. Beats Georgetown at everything that matters.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:13 pm
by Transferthrowaway
top30man wrote:
johansantana21 wrote:UVA obviously. Beats Georgetown at everything that matters.
Notably, softball.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:37 pm
by stewie27
I agree that I'd chose UVA over Gtown. Unless you're a city person- I imagine Cville is a lot different from DC. Gtown also might give you more chances to network or do externships during the school year.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:38 pm
by JamMasterJ
UVA

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:59 pm
by WSJ_Law
UVA. GULC is a TTT diploma mill in decline. hth

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:16 am
by hookem12
Both great schools, obviously. Ranking-wise, UVA is ahead, but Georgetown is very well respected in the DC area and if you want to do something with international law or foreign policy, I would go for Georgetown. However, this is from someone that doesn't know a lot about UVA, but knows several Georgetown graduates, a few of which are currently working overseas, and one for a think tank in DC. If this appeals to you, I'd say Georgetown (that's why it's one of my top choices). I also like the fact that Georgetown's law center is right in the middle of DC, just a few blocks away from Union Station. I don't know much about Charlottesville, but I really like the energy of DC.

Good luck either way though!

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:20 am
by Mal Reynolds
hookem12 wrote:If you want to do something with international law or foreign policy, I would go for Georgetown.
LULZ

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:21 am
by hookem12
More on top international law schools: http://www.macquil.com/articles/topintlaw.php

Georgetown is #4, UVA is #10. Just in case you're interested - not that 6 spots really makes that much a difference

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:23 am
by Mal Reynolds
hookem12 wrote:More on top international law schools: http://www.macquil.com/articles/topintlaw.php

Georgetown is #4, UVA is #10. Just in case you're interested - not that 6 spots really makes that much a difference
More LULZ.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:24 am
by Grizz
hookem12 wrote:More on top international law schools: http://www.macquil.com/articles/topintlaw.php

Georgetown is #4, UVA is #10. Just in case you're interested - not that 6 spots really makes that much a difference
International law is almost nonexistent and specialty rankings are worthless.

HTH.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:31 am
by hookem12
Grizz wrote:
hookem12 wrote:More on top international law schools: http://www.macquil.com/articles/topintlaw.php

Georgetown is #4, UVA is #10. Just in case you're interested - not that 6 spots really makes that much a difference
International law is almost nonexistent and specialty rankings are worthless.

HTH.
Agree with you on the specialty rankings, just found it interesting. My stepmother does a lot with international law, working in Saudi Arabia, and has friends working in England, France and Qatar. Most people don't do IL, but for those that are interested (and considering UVA and Georgetown), it's certainly a unique option.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:33 am
by Grizz
hookem12 wrote:
Grizz wrote:
hookem12 wrote:More on top international law schools: http://www.macquil.com/articles/topintlaw.php

Georgetown is #4, UVA is #10. Just in case you're interested - not that 6 spots really makes that much a difference
International law is almost nonexistent and specialty rankings are worthless.

HTH.
Agree with you on the specialty rankings, just found it interesting. My stepmother does a lot with international law, working in Saudi Arabia, and has friends working in England, France and Qatar. Most people don't do IL, but for those that are interested (and considering UVA and Georgetown), it's certainly a unique option.
Doing what?

Practicing American law abroad =/= international law, incidentally.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:36 am
by IAFG
I would pick GULC over UVA if I know FOR SURE wanted to do gov't, lobby or work on the Hill, because I would want to have access to externships during the schoolyear and be able to build relationships/my network of connections.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:45 am
by hookem12
Grizz wrote:
hookem12 wrote:
Grizz wrote:
hookem12 wrote:More on top international law schools: http://www.macquil.com/articles/topintlaw.php

Georgetown is #4, UVA is #10. Just in case you're interested - not that 6 spots really makes that much a difference
International law is almost nonexistent and specialty rankings are worthless.

HTH.
Agree with you on the specialty rankings, just found it interesting. My stepmother does a lot with international law, working in Saudi Arabia, and has friends working in England, France and Qatar. Most people don't do IL, but for those that are interested (and considering UVA and Georgetown), it's certainly a unique option.
Doing what?

Practicing American law abroad =/= international law, incidentally.
I'm aware of that - and I know of some people doing that with American corporations abroad so I don't mean to imply that those are the same thing at all. My stepmother is the deputy general counsel at KAUST (King Abdullah's University of Science and Technology) - it's a graduate school in Saudi Arabia (unique in that it allows women to study there). The compound and university are both new but expanding rapidly and she has played a major role in creating the laws and regulations - which, in a place where people from many different parts of the world live, each having very different and sometimes strict social customs, can be a challenge.

The friend that I mentioned who works in France currently deals mainly with humanitarian issues and IL - it seems interesting (and rewarding). I wish that I had more insight into what the friend in Qatar does - I was able to meet him for lunch and still was a bit unsure of what his job entails - but he is a partner at Institution Quraysh for Law & Policy - they have offices in Doha, London, and another city in the gulf states (possibly Riyadh).

Didn't mean for this to be so lengthy, but I have sort of a different perspective on IL, just wanted to share.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:59 pm
by TMC116
WSJ_Law wrote:GULC is a TTT diploma mill in decline. hth
This is retarded. Both are T14

That said, id go UVA. Cost is lower, placement is solid, it's T10, the school is gorgeous, etc.

Re: Georgetown or UVA?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:35 pm
by ran12
TMC116 wrote:
WSJ_Law wrote:GULC is a TTT diploma mill in decline. hth
This is retarded. Both are T14

That said, id go UVA. Cost is lower, placement is solid, it's T10, the school is gorgeous, etc.
Gtown's gonna be at 14 for the foreseeable future like it has been for a while now. But it's true that it basically is a diploma mill considering that the DC market is pretty saturated and there are so many kids graduating from Gtown every year fighting for the same jobs with each other and kids from other top schools.