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What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:37 pm
by Dash41
I was wondering what T3/T4 law schools are known to offer full rides? I took the LSAT yesterday and my PT scores averaged around 167, 168, but I think I bombed the first LR (didn't have my focus for some reason) and I expect closer to the lower 160's now.
I can check TLS stats for the top 100, but I'm finding it hard to see what the lower ranked schools do. Also, before everyone says to avoid the T3/T4 schools like the plague, my law school prestige has almost nothing to do with whether I will get a job or not. Just me knowing the law will be enough. Thanks for any information.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:44 pm
by kahechsof
All of them do. If you have the right numbers.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:46 pm
by CanadianWolf
Full rides are rare in law school; many law schools, however, offer full tuition & fees scholarships. Michigan State, for example, is one. In Tier One, SMU does offer full rides but the scholarships are reserved for residents of certain neighboring states.
P.S. No need to venture into the bottom two
tiers of law schools if you score in the 160s.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:05 pm
by Dash41
Sorry not to clarify when I meant full rides, but I did indeed mean full tuition. I understand the living costs, but fortunately I have a generous father who would probably be willing to cover most of my living costs while I go to law school.
Kahechsof, are you sure all of them do if you have the right numbers? My numbers (3.41, probable low 160's LSAT) would probably net me full tuition most of them I would think. But I thought law school full tuition scholarships were very dependent on how generous that school was at giving scholarships. For example, a T4 might not give me one because they're stingy, but a T3 would because they're more generous. That is why I want to narrow down a list of who to apply to.
SMU was actually one of the schools (along with Baylor) I was hoping to maybe get a scholarship to, especially because I'm from Texas. Unfortunately, my LSAT mess up has ruined this. But again, prestige really isn't that big of factor because I will work in the sports industry. My network is what is important, which is already established.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:14 pm
by CanadianWolf
Texas Tech may still award full tuition scholarships to high 150s & low 160s. Stetson looks for low 160s. Many Tier Three law schools do award full tuition scholarships, but not all. Avoid Tier Four law schools even if offered a full tuition scholarship unless special circumstances exist in your situation.
lawschoolnumbers.com may help.
P.S. Although all law schools use the same casebooks as there are only a few law school casebook publishers, you will get a very different quality of education at TTT & TTTT law schools due to the quality of the students which affects the learning experience.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:34 pm
by Dash41
CanadianWolf wrote:Texas Tech may still award full tuition scholarships to high 150s & low 160s. Stetson looks for low 160s. Many Tier Three law schools do award full tuition scholarships, but not all. Avoid Tier Four law schools even if offered a full tuition scholarship unless special circumstances exist in your situation.
lawschoolnumbers.com may help.
P.S. Although all law schools use the same casebooks as there are only a few law school casebook publishers, you will get a very different quality of education at TTT & TTTT law schools due to the quality of the students which affects the learning experience.
Lawschoolnumbers.com was a huge help. Thanks for that.
There are actually a few TTTT law schools that I'd consider due to their proximity to where I could possibly work, but I think you're right, I really shouldn't dip into TTTT besides for that.
I guess I should just wait until my LSAT comes back and then make the decision from there. Also, I have a law fair coming up on Tuesday, so I may go asking around there as well.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:47 am
by alllucknotalent
SIU -carbondale, IL
158+ = 1/2 tuition
161+ = free tuition
I had a 164 and obviously had other options but I can't be more happy with my decision. If you have any questions about the school let me know...
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:27 am
by ariley
How do you know that about SIU law?
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:40 am
by JamMasterJ
CanadianWolf wrote:Full rides are rare in law school; many law schools, however, offer full tuition & fees scholarships. Michigan State, for example, is one. In Tier One, SMU does offer full rides but the scholarships are reserved for residents of certain neighboring states.
P.S. No need to venture into the bottom two tiers of law schools if you score in the 160s.
ftfy
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:23 am
by mrtoren
ariley wrote:How do you know that about SIU law?
One of the assistant state's attorneys I intern with attended SIU Law with a 158 and received a half tuition scholarship. 161 and above for full tuition sounds about right as well.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:53 am
by JamMasterJ
mrtoren wrote:ariley wrote:How do you know that about SIU law?
One of the assistant state's attorneys I intern with attended SIU Law with a 158 and received a half tuition scholarship. 161 and above for full tuition sounds about right as well.
the highest grant for last year on LSN was 81K
http://slu.lawschoolnumbers.com/applica ... order=desc
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:23 pm
by Younks
Information changed
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:27 pm
by TLSwag
Dash41 wrote:Sorry not to clarify when I meant full rides, but I did indeed mean full tuition. I understand the living costs, but fortunately I have a generous father who would probably be willing to cover most of my living costs while I go to law school.
Kahechsof, are you sure all of them do if you have the right numbers? My numbers (3.41, probable low 160's LSAT) would probably net me full tuition most of them I would think. But I thought law school full tuition scholarships were very dependent on how generous that school was at giving scholarships. For example, a T4 might not give me one because they're stingy, but a T3 would because they're more generous. That is why I want to narrow down a list of who to apply to.
SMU was actually one of the schools (along with Baylor) I was hoping to maybe get a scholarship to, especially because I'm from Texas. Unfortunately, my LSAT mess up has ruined this. But again, prestige really isn't that big of factor because I will work in the sports industry. My network is what is important, which is already established.
retake
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:31 pm
by Titleist
CanadianWolf wrote:Texas Tech may still award full tuition scholarships to high 150s & low 160s. Stetson looks for low 160s.
I'm not sure if this is true. I had a high 3.XX/low 16X and they only offered $12k a year after negotiating. Unless you are URM I don't think they will give a full ride with a high 150/ low 160.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:21 am
by rickgrimes69
Dash41 wrote:But again, prestige really isn't that big of factor because I will work in the sports industry. My network is what is important, which is already established.
Unless you have a job offer in writing that states you need only receive a JD from ANYWHERE, never count on a job ITE. Going to a TTT/TTTT just because you're too lazy to retake when you know damn well you can do better is stupid.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:47 am
by Dash41
Funny this thread popped up. I retook and got a 167.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:10 am
by JamMasterJ
Dash41 wrote:Funny this thread popped up. I retook and got a 167.
good to hear. You should be looking for half ride or better at the 15-20 range or full ride in the 20s and 30s
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:45 am
by BarbellDreams
A friend of mine got a full ride + stipend with no stips to SLU with a 3.7/164
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:30 am
by mr.hands
What school did you end up deciding on? If you picked university of pacific, I'm going to slap you
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:05 pm
by Mike Pib
Brooklyn Law School gave me a full ride at 164, and they're a decent T2.
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:39 pm
by TLSwag
Mike Pib wrote:Brooklyn Law School gave me a full ride at 164, and they're a decent T2.
oxymoron?
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:45 pm
by JamMasterJ
TLSwag wrote:Mike Pib wrote:Brooklyn Law School gave me a full ride at 164, and they're a decent T2.
oxymoron?
not really. BLS with a full ride isn't the worst decision in the world. I mean, you'll still end up with 60K in debt from COL in Brooklyn/Manhattan, but the school isn't completely horrible
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:49 pm
by TLSwag
JamMasterJ wrote:TLSwag wrote:Mike Pib wrote:Brooklyn Law School gave me a full ride at 164, and they're a decent T2.
oxymoron?
not really. BLS with a full ride isn't the worst decision in the world. I mean, you'll still end up with 60K in debt from COL in Brooklyn/Manhattan, but the school isn't completely horrible
true but i wouldn't give up 3 years of my life for a <10% chance at market salary legal employment and IIRC c/o 2011 had like 45% FT, bar required employment
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:07 pm
by Mike Pib
TLSwag wrote:JamMasterJ wrote:TLSwag wrote:Mike Pib wrote:Brooklyn Law School gave me a full ride at 164, and they're a decent T2.
oxymoron?
not really. BLS with a full ride isn't the worst decision in the world. I mean, you'll still end up with 60K in debt from COL in Brooklyn/Manhattan, but the school isn't completely horrible
true but i wouldn't give up 3 years of my life for a <10% chance at market salary legal employment and IIRC c/o 2011 had like 45% FT, bar required employment
How did you go from 45% to <10%?
Re: What T3 and T4 law schools offer full rides?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:44 pm
by Yukos
TLSwag wrote:JamMasterJ wrote:TLSwag wrote:Mike Pib wrote:
oxymoron?
not really. BLS with a full ride isn't the worst decision in the world. I mean, you'll still end up with 60K in debt from COL in Brooklyn/Manhattan, but the school isn't completely horrible
true but i wouldn't give up 3 years of my life for a <10% chance at
market salary legal employment and IIRC c/o 2011 had like 45%
FT, bar required employment
How did you go from 45% to <10%?