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fingersxd wrote:Short answer is Columbia.
Columbia still wins in lay prestige anyway.Bronte wrote:Columbia, other three are peers. Is this a joke? Edit, and lol at "lay prestige," isn't that term, like, forbidden now?
Well it's Columbia >>> Penn > Michigan = UVA in terms of lay prestige, but lay prestige is like... well an analogy isn't coming to mind, but it's really derpy.bhan87 wrote:Columbia still wins in lay prestige anyway.Bronte wrote:Columbia, other three are peers. Is this a joke? Edit, and lol at "lay prestige," isn't that term, like, forbidden now?
Concept of lay prestige also fluctuates from region to region and so, is largely a pointless consideration (i.e. lawyers know what is what and who cares what your FedEx delivery man thinks is better?). In the Midwest, I would guess Michigan > UVA/Penn. In the South I would guess UVA>Penn/Michigan.Bronte wrote:Well it's Columbia >>> Penn > Michigan = UVA in terms of lay prestige, but lay prestige is like... well an analogy isn't coming to mind, but it's really derpy.bhan87 wrote:Columbia still wins in lay prestige anyway.Bronte wrote:Columbia, other three are peers. Is this a joke? Edit, and lol at "lay prestige," isn't that term, like, forbidden now?
I bet you get laid more at Michigan or Virginia. I've never been to Philly, but in NYC you better be prepared to play - you can't just... be cheering for the right football team or whatever.fingersxd wrote:Concept of lay prestige also fluctuates from region to region and so, is largely a pointless consideration (i.e. lawyers know what is what and who cares what your FedEx delivery man thinks is better?). In the Midwest, I would guess Michigan > UVA/Penn. In the South I would guess UVA>Penn/Michigan.Bronte wrote:Well it's Columbia >>> Penn > Michigan = UVA in terms of lay prestige, but lay prestige is like... well an analogy isn't coming to mind, but it's really derpy.bhan87 wrote:Columbia still wins in lay prestige anyway.Bronte wrote:Columbia, other three are peers. Is this a joke? Edit, and lol at "lay prestige," isn't that term, like, forbidden now?
Now that you mention it, I'd never considered why firms let you search by school. I'm thinking it has nothing to do with lay prestige - no one is paying Quinn Emanuel because they've "heard of" the schools their attorneys went to. It's probably a networking mechanism of some kind? I guess - I'm not clear I'd want it on my website.kwais wrote:I think people mischaracterize 'lay prestige' on TLS as some sort of pick-up line. Why do you think firms let you search their attorneys by law school? To capitalize on 'lay prestige'. It's real and, while it's by no means THE reason to pick a school, to say it's somehow non-existent is naive.
not sure if serious? If you are, I disagree. Having Harvard associates is a definite selling point of prestigious firms. A selling point both in and outside the legal community.ahduth wrote:Now that you mention it, I'd never considered why firms let you search by school. I'm thinking it has nothing to do with lay prestige - no one is paying Quinn Emanuel because they've "heard of" the schools their attorneys went to. It's probably a networking mechanism of some kind? I guess - I'm not clear I'd want it on my website.kwais wrote:I think people mischaracterize 'lay prestige' on TLS as some sort of pick-up line. Why do you think firms let you search their attorneys by law school? To capitalize on 'lay prestige'. It's real and, while it's by no means The reason to pick a school, to say it's somehow non-existent is naive.
Entirely serious, and you're right - I'd want it as some sort of networking mechanism within the legal community. The opinions of people outside the legal community are irrelevant. They're not buying working from AmLaw 100 firms.kwais wrote:not sure if serious? If you are, I disagree. Having Harvard associates is a definite selling point of prestigious firms. A selling point both in and outside the legal community.ahduth wrote:Now that you mention it, I'd never considered why firms let you search by school. I'm thinking it has nothing to do with lay prestige - no one is paying Quinn Emanuel because they've "heard of" the schools their attorneys went to. It's probably a networking mechanism of some kind? I guess - I'm not clear I'd want it on my website.kwais wrote:I think people mischaracterize 'lay prestige' on TLS as some sort of pick-up line. Why do you think firms let you search their attorneys by law school? To capitalize on 'lay prestige'. It's real and, while it's by no means The reason to pick a school, to say it's somehow non-existent is naive.
What? who are their clients then?ahduth wrote:Entirely serious, and you're right - I'd want it as some sort of networking mechanism within the legal community. The opinions of people outside the legal community are irrelevant. They're not buying working from AmLaw 100 firms.kwais wrote:not sure if serious? If you are, I disagree. Having Harvard associates is a definite selling point of prestigious firms. A selling point both in and outside the legal community.ahduth wrote:Now that you mention it, I'd never considered why firms let you search by school. I'm thinking it has nothing to do with lay prestige - no one is paying Quinn Emanuel because they've "heard of" the schools their attorneys went to. It's probably a networking mechanism of some kind? I guess - I'm not clear I'd want it on my website.kwais wrote:I think people mischaracterize 'lay prestige' on TLS as some sort of pick-up line. Why do you think firms let you search their attorneys by law school? To capitalize on 'lay prestige'. It's real and, while it's by no means The reason to pick a school, to say it's somehow non-existent is naive.
GC offices.kwais wrote:What? who are their clients then?
Thanks, I should've said GC offices and the government.JamMasterJ wrote:Columbia, return to arguing about stupid shit
I'm just amused by how when people ask questions on TLS, they usually end up getting answers to something entirely different.ahduth wrote:Thanks, I should've said GC offices and the government.JamMasterJ wrote:Columbia, return to arguing about stupid shit
Go with the money or preferred location.5110 wrote:And in between Michigan and Penn?
Penn has more lay-prestige outside of NYC.Bronte wrote:Well it's Columbia >>> Penn > Michigan = UVA in terms of lay prestige, but lay prestige is like... well an analogy isn't coming to mind, but it's really derpy.bhan87 wrote:Columbia still wins in lay prestige anyway.Bronte wrote:Columbia, other three are peers. Is this a joke? Edit, and lol at "lay prestige," isn't that term, like, forbidden now?
I know that's true on the east coast. Does that also hold in the midwest and west coast? Being an ivy I imagine it does, but just curious.rayiner wrote:Penn has more lay-prestige outside of NYC.Bronte wrote:Well it's Columbia >>> Penn > Michigan = UVA in terms of lay prestige, but lay prestige is like... well an analogy isn't coming to mind, but it's really derpy.bhan87 wrote:Columbia still wins in lay prestige anyway.Bronte wrote:Columbia, other three are peers. Is this a joke? Edit, and lol at "lay prestige," isn't that term, like, forbidden now?
Yes. M=P. Broadly speaking they are peer schools and Penn would be a fine choice for NYC.5110 wrote:A lot of people on this site make fun of Penn by calling it Penn State, I see no such jokes being made about Michigan (Michigan State), sometimes I wonder if this indicative of anything?
That said, if one was interested in NYC and choosing between Penn and Michigan, I assume Penn could come out on top?
Certainly not in Chicago. Penn is basically some school no one cares about, and Michigan is where a pile of power brokers in the city went to school. Hell there are U of Michigan bars in Chicago.fingersxd wrote:I know that's true on the east coast. Does that also hold in the midwest and west coast? Being an ivy I imagine it does, but just curious.