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Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:59 pm
by TheOcho
I feel like this is an easy decision but thought I'd get other opinions.

Texas $ totaling 77k

Vandy $ totaling 21 k.

Will Vandy match if I ask? If so, is there any significant advantage to Vandy over Texas? I want biglaw. Thanks!

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:06 pm
by ndirish2010
If you want to work in Texas, no brainer.

If not Texas, still probably UT unless Vandy increases money by a lot.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:24 pm
by quixotical
ndirish2010 wrote:If you want to work in Texas, no brainer.

If not Texas, still probably UT unless Vandy increases money by a lot.
TITCR. Vanderbilt is expensive even with 21k. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the cost of living at Vandy would be higher than in Texas as well.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:28 pm
by LoyalRebel
There's a huge legal market in Texas, and Texas is T14 this year. In this case, you're making a sound investment by taking on extra debt.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:30 pm
by LoyalRebel
quixotical wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:If you want to work in Texas, no brainer.

If not Texas, still probably UT unless Vandy increases money by a lot.
TITCR. Vanderbilt is expensive even with 21k. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the cost of living at Vandy would be higher than in Texas as well.
I dunno, Austin is pretty expensive.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:30 pm
by quixotical
LoyalRebel wrote:There's a huge legal market in Texas, and Texas is T14 this year. In this case, you're making a sound investment by taking on extra debt.
I think you misunderstood. Texas is offering OP 77k.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:31 pm
by LoyalRebel
quixotical wrote:
LoyalRebel wrote:There's a huge legal market in Texas, and Texas is T14 this year. In this case, you're making a sound investment by taking on extra debt.
I think you misunderstood. Texas is offering OP 77k.
Oh.

Why is there even a debate?

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:38 pm
by quixotical
LoyalRebel wrote:
quixotical wrote:
LoyalRebel wrote:There's a huge legal market in Texas, and Texas is T14 this year. In this case, you're making a sound investment by taking on extra debt.
I think you misunderstood. Texas is offering OP 77k.
Oh.

Why is there even a debate?
I think because UT is a newcomer to the T14 whereas Vanderbilt is pretty established as a solid T20 and considered an honorary T14 by some. Vandy still has more lay prestige than UT. If OP doesn't want to work in Texas, it becomes a harder decision, though I think UT is the way to go unless Vandy increases their scholarship offer by double digits.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:54 pm
by de5igual
quixotical wrote:
LoyalRebel wrote:
quixotical wrote:
LoyalRebel wrote:There's a huge legal market in Texas, and Texas is T14 this year. In this case, you're making a sound investment by taking on extra debt.
I think you misunderstood. Texas is offering OP 77k.
Oh.

Why is there even a debate?
I think because UT is a newcomer to the T14 whereas Vanderbilt is pretty established as a solid T20 and considered an honorary T14 by some. Vandy still has more lay prestige than UT. If OP doesn't want to work in Texas, it becomes a harder decision, though I think UT is the way to go unless Vandy increases their scholarship offer by double digits.
UT is just as established a T20 as Vandy ever was. Ultimately the two are peers and will place similarly, with a focus on their particular region. However, because Texas is going to be way cheaper, it doesn't make sense to choose Vandy unless you have some compelling reason to be in Nashville.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:29 pm
by Grizz
LoyalRebel wrote:Texas is T14 this year.
Possibly the single worst reason to choose Texas over Vandy.
f0bolous wrote: UT is just as established a T20 as Vandy ever was. Ultimately the two are peers and will place similarly, with a focus on their particular region. However, because Texas is going to be way cheaper, it doesn't make sense to choose Vandy unless you have some compelling reason to be in Nashville.
Pretty much this.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:30 pm
by akili
Texas unless the money gets MUCH higher at Vandy...then it's probably just personal preference.

(I say this as someone who picked Vandy over UT at similar costs)

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:35 pm
by Grizz
akili wrote:Texas unless the money gets MUCH higher at Vandy...then it's probably just personal preference.

(I say this as someone who picked Vandy over UT at similar costs)
Me too.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:50 am
by Gecko of Doom
Easily Texas, unless you are utterly opposed to the prospect of working in the state. Not saying you can't get out of Texas with a UT degree, but it will be where most of your opportunities are.

You have nothing to lose by asking if Vandy will match, though.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:26 am
by LoyalRebel
rad law wrote:
LoyalRebel wrote:Texas is T14 this year.
Possibly the single worst reason to choose Texas over Vandy.
The fact that Texas has a higher ranking than Vandy is the single worst reason to choose Texas over Vandy?

To each his own.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:45 am
by bk1
LoyalRebel wrote: The fact that Texas has a higher ranking than Vandy is the single worst reason to choose Texas over Vandy?

To each his own.
Yes it is the worst reason because it is meaningless. The prospects for their grads (in their respective regions) don't hinge on what ranking USNWR assigns to these schools, they hinge on how employers view these schools, and in their respective regions these schools are peers. It wouldn't matter if the 2012 USNWR rankings put UT at #1 and Vandy at #200, they would still be peers.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:47 am
by TheOcho
These are the answers that I kind of expected. I have no regional preference. Thanks guys.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:23 pm
by fingersxd
TheOcho wrote:These are the answers that I kind of expected. I have no regional preference. Thanks guys.
Enjoy Austin. It's a cool place.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:34 am
by Pricer
f0bolous wrote: UT is just as established a T20 as Vandy ever was. Ultimately the two are peers and will place similarly, with a focus on their particular region. However, because Texas is going to be way cheaper, it doesn't make sense to choose Vandy unless you have some compelling reason to be in Nashville.
This.
bk187 wrote:
LoyalRebel wrote: The fact that Texas has a higher ranking than Vandy is the single worst reason to choose Texas over Vandy?

To each his own.
Yes it is the worst reason because it is meaningless. The prospects for their grads (in their respective regions) don't hinge on what ranking USNWR assigns to these schools, they hinge on how employers view these schools, and in their respective regions these schools are peers. It wouldn't matter if the 2012 USNWR rankings put UT at #1 and Vandy at #200, they would still be peers.
Agreed. Vandy and UT are separated in USNWR by what? A single point? The difference between their 14 and 16 ranking is a single point. And that is just for this year. These schools are too close to say one is generally better than the other. It comes down to scholarship offers and individual preferences. I am attending UT next year, but I fully believe that UT = Vandy = UCLA.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:21 pm
by bk1
Pricer wrote:Agreed. Vandy and UT are separated in USNWR by what? A single point? The difference between their 14 and 16 ranking is a single point. And that is just for this year. These schools are too close to say one is generally better than the other. It comes down to scholarship offers and individual preferences. I am attending UT next year, but I fully believe that UT = Vandy = UCLA.
I agree that UT/Vandy/UCLA/USC should be a cluster, but I would honestly give the edge to UT/Vandy not because they are more prestigious but because they place into stronger markets at the moment. I think UCLA/USC are suffering worse than UT/Vandy because the former are place into CA and that is hurting them big time.

Re: Vandy vs. Texas

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:32 pm
by Stringer Bell
Vandy places a little better, but not 60k better. I'd go with Texas here.