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Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:16 pm
by g.u.m
Hi Everyone!

I currently live in CA and would love to practice IP/ Patent here in Los Angeles, but unfortunately I did not make it into any of the ranked CA schools. I took the lsat 3 times and I scored 150 each time. Retaking is not an option... (and changing careers isn't either)

Here is a list of schools I have been accepted to:

- Western State ($10,000/yr scholarship + full scholarship if I maintain above a 3.0)
- California Western (san diego)
- Thomas Jefferson ($11,000/yr scholarship, san diego)
- Golden Gate ($9,000/yr scholarship, san fransisco)
- Whittier School of Law ($8000/yr, orange county)

-Stetson University School of Law, Florida (ranked #1 in Trial Advocacy and #3 in Legal writing according to US News)
- University of New Hampshire, Franklin Pierce Center for Intellectual Property Law (ranked #4 in IP law according to US News)
- Drake University (Iowa)

I guess what I would like to know is, from the list of schools I have been accepted to, is it best to go to a relatively higher ranked school out-of-state or a TTTT school in-state??? what do employers prefer??

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:32 pm
by JD2014
You prefaced the post with "can't retake, not reconsidering" so might as well dive in.

The general rule is go to school where you want to practice, unless you have a compelling reason (admission to a T-14 being the most common). Therefore, if you want to work in California, you should go to school there.
Stetson University School of Law, Florida (ranked #1 in Trial Advocacy and #3 in Legal writing according to US News)
These rankings are meaningless, and you don't want Florida. Cross Stetson off the list. Same with Drake.

As the California TTT's are interchangeable, go to whichever is the cheapest. Make sure to factor in cost of living, and the stipulations on the scholarships, as schools like these are notorious for taking them away.

Good luck.

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:42 pm
by dpk711
g.u.m wrote:Retaking is not an option... (and changing careers isn't either)
Seeing that you got 3 150s in a row I can understand why retaking isn't an option, but why is changing careers not one? To be brutally honest, these schools are pretty horrible and there is a huge chance that you won't even get a full time law-related job.
g.u.m wrote: -Stetson University School of Law, Florida (ranked #1 in Trial Advocacy and #3 in Legal writing according to US News)
- University of New Hampshire, Franklin Pierce Center for Intellectual Property Law (ranked #4 in IP law according to US News)
As the poster already mentioned, don't take the USNWR specialty ranking at face value. Would you seriously go to Stetson over Stanford if you are interested in trial advocacy or legal writing? The specialty rankings are simply laughable.

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:01 am
by Horchata
JD2014 wrote:
As the California TTT's are interchangeable, go to whichever is the cheapest. Make sure to factor in cost of living, and the stipulations on the scholarships, as schools like these are notorious for taking them away.

Good luck.

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:10 am
by dr123
None of the above?

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:20 am
by Cupidity
Stetson has amazing regional rep in Florida. If you don't mind practicing there for the next few years, I would strongly encourage it. Florida's legal market is different than the rest of the country, so the employment stats look worse to outsiders than people who know whats up. If you can pull $60,000k a year in the sunshine state, you are golden.

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:53 pm
by g.u.m
Thanks everyone!!! these imputs really do help! I can start narrowing down to my best options.

Does anyone know much about UNH, Franklin Pierce?? I heard it has a good reputation amongst patent attorney's across the nation. How true is this?

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:58 pm
by Cupidity
g.u.m wrote:Thanks everyone!!! these imputs really do help! I can start narrowing down to my best options.

Does anyone know much about UNH, Franklin Pierce?? I heard it has a good reputation amongst patent attorney's across the nation. How true is this?
Not very.

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:40 pm
by JD2014
heard it has a good reputation amongst patent attorney's across the nation.
Depends on what you mean by "patent attorneys" and "across the nation." If you mean their alumni, and in New Hampshire, then probably.

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:00 pm
by Bill Cosby
Cupidity wrote:Stetson has amazing regional rep in Florida. If you don't mind practicing there for the next few years, I would strongly encourage it. Florida's legal market is different than the rest of the country, so the employment stats look worse to outsiders than people who know whats up. If you can pull $60,000k a year in the sunshine state, you are golden.
How so? (I'm legit curious).

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:04 am
by Case2L
Even before I knew I wanted to go to law school I was familiar w/ Franklin Pierce's reputation for IP law (and I am not from the Northeast). Sure that's highly ancedotal, but if you want IP, I'm voting UNH.

Re: Stetson vs. California ($) TTTT vs. UNH ??

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:40 am
by Mick Haller
JD2014 wrote:
As the California TTT's are interchangeable, go to whichever is the cheapest.
Not necessarily true. I would wager GGU and especially Cal Western have much stronger alumni networks than a relative newcomer like Thomas Jefferson. They are all terrible, but some of them are slightly less terrible.