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Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:24 am
by juevonate
Relevant facts:

1. I want to work with asylum-seekers and refugees, and my only interest is in public interest work

2. Though my family lives in the DC area, I feel more at home in Texas, and have more friends and connections there.

3. I'm a relatively low-stress individual, and I was really struck by the high-stress (dare I say misery) of the students at Georgetown, compared to the relative relaxation and happiness of the students at UT. Austin seems awesome

4. UT has one clinic that deals with asylum, but that is just as part of the general immigration clinic. Austin appears to have just one organization where I would be able to do pro bono work with asylum-seekers and refugees.

Georgetown has a clinic (Though difficult to get into) that solely deals with asylum-seekers, and obviously offers a wealth of pro bono opportunities. Georgetown also has a certification program for work with refugees (basically meaningless, but obviously something that would give me significant training.)

4. I am planning on using the IBR/loan forgiveness, especially if I went to Georgetown. Georgetown's LRAP program is better than UT's on the surface, although UT's does not require you to enroll in the IBR, and if I ostensibly might be able to reasonably actually pay off my loans, even with a moderate PI salary if I went to UT....giving me security if the IBR fails.

5. I am hoping to get off the waitlist at Michigan or NYU.

Anything I'm not considering?

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:32 am
by bdubs
Re: IBR

I don't know the two systems for these schools, but most schools have an income floor. You should look into whether you would be under the income floor at most immigration jobs anyway, because in that case the LRAP differences might not matter.

ETA: I voted for UT. It sounds like it just fits you better.

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:17 am
by ajcollege
juevonate wrote:Relevant facts:
3. I'm a relatively low-stress individual, and I was really struck by the high-stress (dare I say misery) of the students at Georgetown, compared to the relative relaxation and happiness of the students at UT.
Can you detail/explain this? What exactly made them seem high-stress?

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:26 am
by AreJay711
You aren't considering there is almost no reason for you to choose Gtown over UT with that price difference, much less if you actually like UT better.

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:28 am
by mr_toad
Regarding stress, I attended a class at GULC in March and the students there were laughing and talking before the beginning of class (large section torts). They seemed happy to be there. FWIW. But I would choose UT with big scholly over Gtown at sticker, especially with your career path and personal remarks.

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:29 am
by JamMasterJ
Since your interest isn't in govt work, I'd say Hook em Horns

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:44 pm
by juevonate
ajcollege wrote:
juevonate wrote:Relevant facts:
3. I'm a relatively low-stress individual, and I was really struck by the high-stress (dare I say misery) of the students at Georgetown, compared to the relative relaxation and happiness of the students at UT.
Can you detail/explain this? What exactly made them seem high-stress?
It seemed like everyone had just accepted that law school was miserable...talked about studying three hours for every hour of class each week. I get intense studying, 45+ class as an average seems a bit much.
AreJay711 wrote:You aren't considering there is almost no reason for you to choose Gtown over UT with that price difference, much less if you actually like UT better.
THE reason why Georgetown is still so tempting is because in terms of connecting me with opportunities to get hands on experience and connections in the asylum law/ international refugee field, being in DC at Georgetown offers a sick number of opportunities.

Also, since I'll qualify for the IBR, and am commited to Public Interest work as a career path, the cost difference isn't as important as it would usually

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:07 pm
by AreJay711
juevonate wrote:
ajcollege wrote:
juevonate wrote:Relevant facts:
3. I'm a relatively low-stress individual, and I was really struck by the high-stress (dare I say misery) of the students at Georgetown, compared to the relative relaxation and happiness of the students at UT.
Can you detail/explain this? What exactly made them seem high-stress?
It seemed like everyone had just accepted that law school was miserable...talked about studying three hours for every hour of class each week. I get intense studying, 45+ class as an average seems a bit much.
AreJay711 wrote:You aren't considering there is almost no reason for you to choose Gtown over UT with that price difference, much less if you actually like UT better.
THE reason why Georgetown is still so tempting is because in terms of connecting me with opportunities to get hands on experience and connections in the asylum law/ international refugee field, being in DC at Georgetown offers a sick number of opportunities.

Also, since I'll qualify for the IBR, and am commited to Public Interest work as a career path, the cost difference isn't as important as it would usually
More opportunites than Texas? With drug lords tearing shit up and all the people comming from Mexico? Maybe but it isn't like there is no work in that field in TX. I'd also be wary orf saying "I'm not worried about the money I take in debt" when things might change over the next 5 - 10 years and you might opt for more pay or something.

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:39 pm
by juevonate
Georgetown it is! (No, seriously, I officially turned down Texas and am going to Georgetown)

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:20 am
by CanadianWolf
Go to the higher ranked law school. :D

Re: Georgetown v. UT: Anything I am not considering?

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:05 am
by JamMasterJ
CanadianWolf wrote:Go to the higher ranked law school. :D
lulz