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Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:49 pm
by alba0321
I finally narrowed it down to these two from a list of ten, so any input is greatly appreciated! :-)

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:52 pm
by bearsfan1
I'm not going to vote because I don't know much about either school. But definitely research the gpa curve for each school to find out what the odds are of you keeping your scholarship.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:52 pm
by HeavenWood
alba0321 wrote:Villanova - $27k scholarship / year with 3.15 GPA stipulation.
Syracuse - $33k scholarship / year with 3.0 GPA stipulation.

Just a little background info - I am originally from the Philly suburbs, but my family moved to upstate NY when I was in middle school, so I am not preferential to a job in either location. I am most interested in Health Law and would ultimately like to serve as in house counsel for a hospital or represent pharmaceutical companies.

I finally narrowed it down to these two from a list of ten, so any input is greatly appreciated! :-)
In absolute terms, Villanova places better in Philly than Syracuse does in upstate New York. That being said, both are regional schools. I would personally pick Villanova because IMHO Philadelphia >>> Syracuse, but that's a decision you'll have to make for yourself.

Those are generous offers, but try to get the stipulations removed (or at least relaxed). I'm not sure how a 3.15 at Villanova and a 3.0 at Syracuse correspond to the curve, but make sure they're at least below median.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:19 am
by alba0321
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Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:27 am
by BlueDiamond
HeavenWood.. ever watch Kobe live in HS?

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:42 am
by 2things2
who are the goofy bastards picking cuse?

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:51 am
by CanadianWolf
@2things2: If selecting Syracuse is "goofy", then why did you apply ?

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:54 am
by Justathought
CanadianWolf wrote:@2things2: If selecting Syracuse is "goofy", then why did you apply ?
Wolf I expected more from you, in terms of reading comp. 2things isn't saying that applying to Syracuse is goofy, rather that those who are selecting it in this poll over Nova are goofy. That's debatable given preferences, but I'd personally be inclined to agree.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:58 am
by TNFSkier16
I'd choose Villanova over Syracuse. But since I'm waitlisted at Villanova, I chose Syracuse. Just put in my deposit.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:02 am
by CanadianWolf
Based on the OP's situation & options, neither choice is "goofy".

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:15 am
by BarbellDreams
I would take Nova, but let them know about the syracuse scholly and 3.0 stips and try and get them to bump their stip down to 3.0.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:39 pm
by alba0321
Just a quick update: Nova bumped up to $31k/year...but neither school will negotiate the GPA requirements.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:02 pm
by HeavenWood
alba0321 wrote:Just a quick update: Nova bumped up to $31k/year...but neither school will negotiate the GPA requirements.
What GPA corresponds to median at each school?

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:57 pm
by alba0321
HeavenWood wrote:
alba0321 wrote:Just a quick update: Nova bumped up to $31k/year...but neither school will negotiate the GPA requirements.
What GPA corresponds to median at each school?
I believe each school has a B curve.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:02 pm
by bport hopeful
Where in NY are you from? If youre from cuse, do cuse. If not, dont subject yourself to it. The city is the worst.

FWIW, Philly has a way larger legal market. Theres no money in Western/Central NY.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:10 pm
by alba0321
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Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:13 pm
by BruceBarr
Nobody wants to talk about why Villanova dropped so hard in the rankings? Nobody? Nobody wants to mention that the lied for years about salaries of graduates and what not? How they knowingly reported false information? Anyone?

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/02/villanov ... o-the-aba/

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:17 pm
by bport hopeful
alba0321 wrote:
bport hopeful wrote:Where in NY are you from? If youre from cuse, do cuse. If not, dont subject yourself to it. The city is the worst.

FWIW, Philly has a way larger legal market. Theres no money in Western/Central NY.
I live about an hour away from Syracuse..so I'm used to the Upstate mentality and weather.

I have until Friday to make it official, but I think I am leaning towards Villanova, mainly because of the legal market.

Thanks for all the help :D
As am I. Im from Rochester, and I feel that Syracuse would be a downgrade. Im opting to GTFO of NY.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:17 pm
by HeavenWood
BruceBarr wrote:Nobody wants to talk about why Villanova dropped so hard in the rankings? Nobody? Nobody wants to mention that the lied for years about salaries of graduates and what not? How they knowingly reported false information? Anyone?

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/02/villanov ... o-the-aba/
It won't make any difference in local hiring in the short-term (and probably won't make any difference in local hiring in the long-term as well).

It's fun to buy into hysterics, but old reputations die hard, especially in insular legal markets like Philadelphia.

/point at issue

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:49 pm
by alba0321
HeavenWood wrote:
BruceBarr wrote:Nobody wants to talk about why Villanova dropped so hard in the rankings? Nobody? Nobody wants to mention that the lied for years about salaries of graduates and what not? How they knowingly reported false information? Anyone?

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/02/villanov ... o-the-aba/
It won't make any difference in local hiring in the short-term (and probably won't make any difference in local hiring in the long-term as well).

It's fun to buy into hysterics, but old reputations die hard, especially in insular legal markets like Philadelphia.

/point at issue
When I attended the Drexel ASW, they gave me the impression that the Villanova 3Ls this year have dismal job prospects because of the admissions scandal, and that 2Ls were not getting as many summer associateships, etc.

However, when I discussed this with students and professors at Villanova, they said the scandal has had no effect on the current students.

Has anyone actually been turned down because of this?

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:50 pm
by bport hopeful
Also, Major League Baseball. The End.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:58 pm
by trayball23
What part of NY is the OP from?

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:01 pm
by alba0321
trayball23 wrote:What part of NY is the OP from?
Upstate

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:09 pm
by trayball23
I was jw I am from upstate as well and was accepted with both with the same scholarships pm me if you want to discuss it further.

Re: Villanova ($$$) v. Syracuse ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:17 pm
by bport hopeful
trayball23 wrote:I was jw I am from upstate as well and was accepted with both with the same scholarships pm me if you want to discuss it further.
Get it son.